• leisesprecher@feddit.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 day ago

    Of course that’s emotional.

    Reducing suffering is based on the idea that I don’t like suffering, therefore I don’t want others to suffer. That’s emotional.

    • oberstoffensichtlich@feddit.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      15 hours ago

      There are whole schools of philosophy around suffering, its necessity, and its reduction. Utilitarianism is one of that. Philosophy is based on logic, not straight emotions.

      If you say, “I don’t like suffering” to someone with a “no pain, no gain” shirt, your argument is weaker.

      • leisesprecher@feddit.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        14 hours ago

        Philosophy is based on logic, not straight emotions

        Yeah, sorry, but that’s straight untrue.

        As I wrote before, every time you’re doing a value judgement, you’re arguing based on emotions.

        Saying shredding two animals causes more suffering than shredding no animals is a rational, provable statement. But whether suffering is bad or not, is a value judgement and thus not rational.

        If you say, “I don’t like suffering” to someone with a “no pain, no gain” shirt, your argument is weaker.

        And both of these statements are value judgement, you’re doing a category error here.