Is there really any flattering angles for the male body though? Also, who wants to take pics of dudes trying to look sexy? Their male friends won’t. I know we have literal works of art showing nude male bodies, but the majority of men’s bodies are shit to look at and nobody wants to look at them. Women don’t even have to have ideal bodies and men will still be elated that they sent them nudes. Meanwhile, people would be more likely to pay me to not send them nudes, at best, but more likely they’d press charges.
You don’t have to be gay to uplift and compliment the other men you interact with. That’s just a side effect of toxic masculinity. Men can compliment each other, uplift each other, and say “Hey man, you’re looking good today. You make that shirt look good!” without being gay. Not that I disagree with anything you said, just you’re comment got me thinking about the weird effects of the patriarchy on men supporting other men.
Patriarchy didn’t teach men that they’re disgusting, wtf
That’s like the opposite of the patriarchy
This is the shit feminists do that piss me off. Literally anything bad? Patriarchy. Literally anything good? Feminism. Even if it makes no goddamn sense.
Patriarchy absolutely teaches us that. It’s part of enforcing heteronormativity in men - if you find another man attractive or beautiful, you cannot express that without being accused of being gay, and this seeps into our self conception where not only do we have trouble viewing ourselves as capable of being beautiful, but we aggressively police men and boys around us who we perceive to be seeking beauty themselves.
There’s been movement on this in the younger generation, but it’s still the hegemonic attitude.
I appreciate my form (sometimes) and I’m a guy. The roman’s did a lot of sexy guy bodies, I’d say the roman dudes bodies are sexier on average than the woman’s bodies.
I think any gender stuff like this naturally creates a lot of discomfort for people since attraction/sexuality is so base. If you really believe that a woman’s body is objectively more beautiful then I think that’d represent a gap in your logic. We’re just shapes.
As a licensed, dues paying gay, I quite like the male form. Even body types I’m not particularly attracted to can be very appealing, and I’ve rarely regretted getting a dick pic or body shot. The only nudes I’m not really fond of getting on Grindr are close up booty hole pics. Sometimes they can be hot, but mostly they’re not done well
You don’t need to have a perfect body; lighting, indicating soft power through angles, and imagination are your friends. A lot of the best male nudes are the ones where the dick isn’t the focus(or even shown at all).
For the simple fact that humans have successfully reproduced I must assume women find men attractive, however since I am not a woman this is but an assumption, perhaps they are all psychopaths, cynically mating for the simple necessity of reproduction, I certainly know plenty of men who would agree with that statement however I find it far more plausible that in some form or another men must be viewed as attractive to the opposite sex.
Is there really any flattering angles for the male body though? Also, who wants to take pics of dudes trying to look sexy? Their male friends won’t. I know we have literal works of art showing nude male bodies, but the majority of men’s bodies are shit to look at and nobody wants to look at them. Women don’t even have to have ideal bodies and men will still be elated that they sent them nudes. Meanwhile, people would be more likely to pay me to not send them nudes, at best, but more likely they’d press charges.
yes, you just need an attraction to men first.
also, phones have a timer setting for a reason.
Or you can just take a video, and then pull out a frame if you really want to try hard.
Also also, there are literally people who you can pay for this shit.
Also also also, nude modelling for painting is a thing.
The timeless art of seduction
You have been taught to believe this by the patriarchy. You should try to let go of this feeling.
I have also been taught that by the mirror, and I’m pretty sure I’ve already let way too much go as it is.
I’m trying, but without external validation, all that remains is the status quo.
Go to a gay bar. Not even joking. Gay men are the single best thing for any man’s confidence. And sense of male self-worth.
You don’t have to be gay to uplift and compliment the other men you interact with. That’s just a side effect of toxic masculinity. Men can compliment each other, uplift each other, and say “Hey man, you’re looking good today. You make that shirt look good!” without being gay. Not that I disagree with anything you said, just you’re comment got me thinking about the weird effects of the patriarchy on men supporting other men.
ok to be clear here, i think the point was that gay men compliment men like women compliment each other.
Should men compliment eachother in a gayer fashion? Maybe. Does this change anything here? Probably not.
Patriarchy didn’t teach men that they’re disgusting, wtf
That’s like the opposite of the patriarchy
This is the shit feminists do that piss me off. Literally anything bad? Patriarchy. Literally anything good? Feminism. Even if it makes no goddamn sense.
I consider the patriarchy to be the social power structure that enforces gender norms. What exactly do you consider the patriarchy to be?
Patriarchy absolutely teaches us that. It’s part of enforcing heteronormativity in men - if you find another man attractive or beautiful, you cannot express that without being accused of being gay, and this seeps into our self conception where not only do we have trouble viewing ourselves as capable of being beautiful, but we aggressively police men and boys around us who we perceive to be seeking beauty themselves.
There’s been movement on this in the younger generation, but it’s still the hegemonic attitude.
Hard disagree. I think you’re probably just not attracted to dudes.
You don’t need to be attracted to men to recognize them as not ugly. Plenty of straight women appreciate their form without attraction.
That being said, men often don’t take care of themselves so yeah a lot of them don’t try very much.
I appreciate my form (sometimes) and I’m a guy. The roman’s did a lot of sexy guy bodies, I’d say the roman dudes bodies are sexier on average than the woman’s bodies.
I think any gender stuff like this naturally creates a lot of discomfort for people since attraction/sexuality is so base. If you really believe that a woman’s body is objectively more beautiful then I think that’d represent a gap in your logic. We’re just shapes.
As a licensed, dues paying gay, I quite like the male form. Even body types I’m not particularly attracted to can be very appealing, and I’ve rarely regretted getting a dick pic or body shot. The only nudes I’m not really fond of getting on Grindr are close up booty hole pics. Sometimes they can be hot, but mostly they’re not done well
You don’t need to have a perfect body; lighting, indicating soft power through angles, and imagination are your friends. A lot of the best male nudes are the ones where the dick isn’t the focus(or even shown at all).
Same with female nudes.
I’m always a bit put off when she shows off her dick.
For the simple fact that humans have successfully reproduced I must assume women find men attractive, however since I am not a woman this is but an assumption, perhaps they are all psychopaths, cynically mating for the simple necessity of reproduction, I certainly know plenty of men who would agree with that statement however I find it far more plausible that in some form or another men must be viewed as attractive to the opposite sex.