Many people enjoy discussing and judging the morals of characters in films, but that’s not the main point. Very few characters are entirely good or entirely evil, which tends to result in dull and poorly made movies. Regardless of whether viewers resonate with the story, they should show compassion for the characters. It’s important to interpret their motives and circumstances to understand what led them to make certain decisions and to reflect on ourselves.

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    8 hours ago

    Because it makes them more interesting. If I kick puppies just because I’m “evil” and I like to kick puppies, thats a boring one dimensional character.
    If I kick puppies because I genuinely believe that will cure cancer, then that’s more interesting.

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      6 hours ago

      Like Thanos, his argument is stupid, but he genuinely believed in that, and was powerful enough to do it

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        I think that’s why he worked as such a good villain, because you understood his reasoning, which was terrifying. He was wrong, but you understood it, and you as the viewer knew that made him so much more dangerous.

        If he just wanted to wipe out half of everyone that’d be boring and I wouldn’t feel invested.

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      Watch “The Dirty Dozen.”

      Every character has one objective; to get through the mission alive. The way the Major goes about manipulating each man’s desires is what makes it a great movie.

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      6 hours ago

      But how do not find “justified” evil boring at this point, not every bad guy should be macbeth or dr.frankenstein

      It’s like that new stupid wicked witch movie that’s cooming out just because they are an antagonist doesn’t mean they can’t just be a villian, there can be decent characters that don’t need much back story or deep motivation like the joker or judge holden

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        4 hours ago

        The Joker has a motivation though, his worldview is that everything is chaos and he needs to prove it to everyone else. Especially Batman.

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            It means that when he does things, they feel like things the Joker would do. In the Dark Knight he takes all the mob money and burns half of it, because that is a Joker thing to do. Two Face wouldn’t do that, because Two Face has different motivations.

            That is the reason to have motivation. It doesn’t need to be complex, just nuanced.

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              Couldn’t two face just be written to have flipped a coin and ending up burning half the money as a result

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                He flips the coin to decide people’s fate, not to deatroy money.

                But you also just gave another example of a character’s nuanced motivation and morals. That is what makes Two Face an interesting character in a different way than the Joker!

                A villain that burns the money for no reason other than moving the plot forward would be boring.