gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works to NonCredibleDefense@lemmy.worldEnglish · edit-220 hours agoConsidering last night's results, I don't expect NATO to be credible 4 years from nowsh.itjust.worksimagemessage-square178fedilinkarrow-up1532arrow-down123
arrow-up1509arrow-down1imageConsidering last night's results, I don't expect NATO to be credible 4 years from nowsh.itjust.worksgravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works to NonCredibleDefense@lemmy.worldEnglish · edit-220 hours agomessage-square178fedilink
minus-squareFundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zonelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up8·19 hours agoCan NATO still mean something if the US leaves? I think so, but there is much soul searching to be done.
minus-squaregravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksOPlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up13arrow-down1·18 hours agoSorta, but not really tbh. The US was always intrinsically backstopping the security side of things. Without us in it - and I mean this very seriously - it’s not really a credible threat to Russia or anyone else anymore.
minus-squareFundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zonelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up6·18 hours agoNATO article 5 will still have use in self defence, but obviously it will be way less impressive
minus-squareCosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3·15 hours agoThe article is only powerful if it’s enforced. I suspect that Putin’s direct report won’t really sign on to any sort of defense of European countries.
Can NATO still mean something if the US leaves? I think so, but there is much soul searching to be done.
Sorta, but not really tbh. The US was always intrinsically backstopping the security side of things. Without us in it - and I mean this very seriously - it’s not really a credible threat to Russia or anyone else anymore.
NATO article 5 will still have use in self defence, but obviously it will be way less impressive
The article is only powerful if it’s enforced.
I suspect that Putin’s direct report won’t really sign on to any sort of defense of European countries.