gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works to NonCredibleDefense@lemmy.worldEnglish · edit-216 days agoConsidering last night's results, I don't expect NATO to be credible 4 years from nowsh.itjust.worksexternal-linkmessage-square266fedilinkarrow-up1643arrow-down135
arrow-up1608arrow-down1external-linkConsidering last night's results, I don't expect NATO to be credible 4 years from nowsh.itjust.worksgravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works to NonCredibleDefense@lemmy.worldEnglish · edit-216 days agomessage-square266fedilink
minus-squareFundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zonelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up8·16 days agoCan NATO still mean something if the US leaves? I think so, but there is much soul searching to be done.
minus-squaregravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksOPlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up13arrow-down1·16 days agoSorta, but not really tbh. The US was always intrinsically backstopping the security side of things. Without us in it - and I mean this very seriously - it’s not really a credible threat to Russia or anyone else anymore.
minus-squareFundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zonelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up7·16 days agoNATO article 5 will still have use in self defence, but obviously it will be way less impressive
minus-squareCosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3·16 days agoThe article is only powerful if it’s enforced. I suspect that Putin’s direct report won’t really sign on to any sort of defense of European countries.
Can NATO still mean something if the US leaves? I think so, but there is much soul searching to be done.
Sorta, but not really tbh. The US was always intrinsically backstopping the security side of things. Without us in it - and I mean this very seriously - it’s not really a credible threat to Russia or anyone else anymore.
NATO article 5 will still have use in self defence, but obviously it will be way less impressive
The article is only powerful if it’s enforced.
I suspect that Putin’s direct report won’t really sign on to any sort of defense of European countries.