I would, for sure. My daughter was trans for a few years in high school. I supported her (him at the time) as much as I could. I bought breast binders and new jeans, boots and was as supportive of her choice as I could be. The only thing I put my foot down on was permanent body modification, as she was not capable of making that choice about her body yet and I didn’t feel confident in allowing her to make that choice. So yes, anecdotally and personally, I do not think we should be modifying child bodies before their intellects are mature enough to make life long decisions about themselves. That also includes circumcision.
Nice! That’s a reasonable stance, I think most people are probably where you’re at as well (I guess that’s redundant, it reflects in the poll after all)
now that I think about it more, “sex Change surgeries on minors” are a genuine issue that happens quite regularly. however it’s not the kind most people talk about.
I mean “corrective” surgery on intersex people, where the doctor often decides what gender the Child should be based on the size of the penis and then “corrects” or sometimes mutilates the baby’s genitals.
that is also one of the rare scenarios where the kind of “sex change surgery on minors” that most people talk about could be relevant. just imagine the pain a boy would go through after hearing that the doctor cut up their genitals at birth because they didn’t fit neatly into the binary that is expected of babies.
so, no. I don’t think the kind of “sex change surhery on minors” you’re talking about should be banned. it generally isn’t a thing, and sometimes it’s a good thing. we should focus on the horrible things that are done to intersex people.
There are a lot of (albeit impressive) rhetorical smokes screens I’m choosing not to engage with, but there are many interesting points of conversation to be had here.
Staying on topic here:
so, no. I don’t think the kind of “sex change surhery on minors” you’re talking about should be banned. it generally isn’t a thing, and sometimes it’s a good thing.
This is an interesting take. If it’s sometimes a good thing, why does it matter whether or not it’s generally a thing? And, what evidence do you have that allowing them to be legal tends to do more good than harm?
This is an interesting take. If it’s sometimes a good thing, why does it matter whether or not it’s generally a thing?
Because many people talk about it like it’s a thing that happens all the time to trans children when really, it isn’t. There’s a lot of fearmongering around this. I think pointing out how insignificant this topic is is important. I don’t have sources that it generally does more harm than good and tbh I’m too lazy to go dig something up for an argument on lemmy. However i think by ignoring my “rhetorical smokescreens” you missed an important point. I think intersex children that have experienced mutilation during infancy are a great example for why sex change surgeries on minors should not be made completely illegal. Generally I don’t think this topic warrants governmental interference.
Because many people talk about it like it’s a thing that happens all the time to trans children when really, it isn’t. There’s a lot of fearmongering around this. I think pointing out how insignificant this topic is is important.
It’s fair to fearmonger over this topic. It causes severe harm and injury to the children who get it in the vast majority of cases. You’re right that it’s also important to talk about how few people are actually getting these surgeries, it has no bearing on whether or not it should be legal.
I think intersex children that have experienced mutilation during infancy are a great example for why sex change surgeries on minors should not be made completely illegal.
Is your argument that mutilating children during infancy should be legal, or illegal? Or, is your argument that sex change surgeries should be allowed to reverse such mutilation? If it’s the latter, would you say that’s the only type of sex change operations available for minors?
So you’d support banning them?
I would, for sure. My daughter was trans for a few years in high school. I supported her (him at the time) as much as I could. I bought breast binders and new jeans, boots and was as supportive of her choice as I could be. The only thing I put my foot down on was permanent body modification, as she was not capable of making that choice about her body yet and I didn’t feel confident in allowing her to make that choice. So yes, anecdotally and personally, I do not think we should be modifying child bodies before their intellects are mature enough to make life long decisions about themselves. That also includes circumcision.
Nice! That’s a reasonable stance, I think most people are probably where you’re at as well (I guess that’s redundant, it reflects in the poll after all)
You’re probably right but I just wanted to add some lived experience commentary to the narrative.
now that I think about it more, “sex Change surgeries on minors” are a genuine issue that happens quite regularly. however it’s not the kind most people talk about.
I mean “corrective” surgery on intersex people, where the doctor often decides what gender the Child should be based on the size of the penis and then “corrects” or sometimes mutilates the baby’s genitals.
that is also one of the rare scenarios where the kind of “sex change surgery on minors” that most people talk about could be relevant. just imagine the pain a boy would go through after hearing that the doctor cut up their genitals at birth because they didn’t fit neatly into the binary that is expected of babies.
so, no. I don’t think the kind of “sex change surhery on minors” you’re talking about should be banned. it generally isn’t a thing, and sometimes it’s a good thing. we should focus on the horrible things that are done to intersex people.
There are a lot of (albeit impressive) rhetorical smokes screens I’m choosing not to engage with, but there are many interesting points of conversation to be had here.
Staying on topic here:
This is an interesting take. If it’s sometimes a good thing, why does it matter whether or not it’s generally a thing? And, what evidence do you have that allowing them to be legal tends to do more good than harm?
It’s fair to fearmonger over this topic. It causes severe harm and injury to the children who get it in the vast majority of cases. You’re right that it’s also important to talk about how few people are actually getting these surgeries, it has no bearing on whether or not it should be legal.
Is your argument that mutilating children during infancy should be legal, or illegal? Or, is your argument that sex change surgeries should be allowed to reverse such mutilation? If it’s the latter, would you say that’s the only type of sex change operations available for minors?
big fucking yikes.