• PugJesus@lemmy.world
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    Don’t worry. It’ll all be undone now. Thanks for the incompetence, Dems. Really snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

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      …what jaws of victory? The Dems were literally never projected to win by a majority of polls at any point during the election cycle.

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        …what jaws of victory? The Dems were literally never projected to win by a majority of polls at any point during the election cycle.

        I don’t suppose being up against a senile rapist who fellates his microphone in front of a crowd and peddles deeply unpopular policies at all counts as a victory that should be, by all rights, a layup, except for the fact that Dem messaging is and has always been pure dogshit?

        Those jaws.

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          Oh, you’re one of the people that think the average American doesn’t support those things.

          I hope you maintain your sense of innocence. I gave up.

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          Half of America loves him. None of those things seem to bother them. They were never going to vote dem.

          They definitely fucked up but let’s not pretend Trump isn’t loved by way to many Americans.

          You’ve maybe spent too long in the echo chamber.

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            GOP voters were never going to vote anything other than Trump. Abstainers (and, for the record, FUCK them for not caring about literal fascism) largely saw no point in turning out for the Dems for a lack of inspiring message.

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              Democrats moved to the right to try to get Republican votes. It failed. They will learn nothing and do it again.

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                Bruh, I was full-throated in my support of the Dems because I understood the importance of maintaining enthusiasm for turnout. You can check my comment history if you like. Arguing against people shitting on the Dems when the alternative was literal fascism made up a great deal of my activity these past few months.

                But the election’s over now. We can bitch now without worrying about depressing turnout amongst those with the memories of goldfish who only remember the last comment they read. It’s safe, at least until the next election cycle revs up again. And, in fact, if we do not bitch now, we risk not knowing how to correct our mistakes next time.

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                  So you shit on dems for years until right before the election and expect voters to forget about all that shitting you’ve done at the last second…

                  It doesn’t work like that.

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            As if it would make a difference. Success doesn’t matter if your PR arm can’t meaningfully capitalize on it. The Dems could bring up fully automated luxury gay space communism to the US with total success, and their obsession with being an inclusive, big-tent party, like it’s the mid-2000s, would make them unable to campaign on it.

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                We’re the politically involved, man. It’s not us that need the messaging. It’s the mass of American voters who don’t remember anything if the drum isn’t being beaten 24/7.

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                    Maybe Harris should’ve made it a centerpiece of her campaign rather than the message of normality, ‘they go low we go high’, and ‘being the adults in the room’ style of ‘bipartisanship’ which appeals to Beltway types and other such Very Important Commenters, but is viewed indifferently by most of the country.

                    Fuck, man, I’m not trying to assign 100% of the blame to the Dems. This election was fucked from top to bottom, and ultimately the responsibility lays with the American people for voting in fascism. But it’s hard not to be pissed at the Dems for trying nothing new and being all out of ideas.

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                    Or maybe they shouldn’t have punted on things that had immediate tangible benefits to individuals and then gloat about the IRA which, while a positive, was largely bereft of tangible individual benefits.

                    Particularly after a very long, very public dismantling of every benefit of BBB and then killing it entirely. And then we saw the minimum wage increase die. So we saw Democrats show their true colors toward people who were struggling, and expected us to be happy with something where the only tangible individual benefit was 10 reduced drug prices for boomers on medicare. In 2026. And increasing the length of subsidies for the ACA.

                    As far as individuals are concerned, they were picking around the edges and ordering us to be happy about it. People had every right to ask “what’s in it for me?” after Democrats’ golden boy Manchin killed BBB. The answer was lacking.

                    And calling it the Inflation Reduction Act was a sick joke.

                    EDIT: I forgot about how Manchin was also the deciding vote to kill the expanded child tax credit, doubling child poverty overnight.

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          fellates his microphone in front of a crowd

          You know that was a heavily edited gif right? He didn’t stand there and pretend he was blowing the mic.

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        And Dems were particularly vulnerable to FUD due to their rightward shift on policy, poor messaging, and support for an ongoing genocide. Maybe the party should take some responsibility for once.