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NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh says his party will bring forward a motion of non-confidence to bring down the Trudeau government in the next sitting of the House of Commons.
“The Liberals don’t deserve another chance,” Singh wrote in a letter on Friday. “That’s why the NDP will vote to bring this government down.”
Just to remind everyone: Layton pulled this same stunt, toppling Martin’s government.
The result was the loss of a number of progressive initiatives Martin’s people were working on, the election of fucking Stephen Harper and the most conservative Canadian political landscape since Borden. Science was suppressed, lslamophobia went from being a dogwhistle to a bullhorn, we narrowly avoided economic catastrophy. Harper even fucked with the Census in an attempt to remake Canada.
A lot of dippers really idolized Layton, but honestly he was a shameless opportunist and I don’t forgive him for giving us almost a decade of Harper.
And Singh is pulling the same fucking stunt.
Refusing to support a sitting government mired in scandal isn’t a stunt—it’s taking a stand. Calling an election wasn’t just the right thing to do; it was unavoidable after the Office of the Auditor General laid bare the extent of corruption. This wasn’t a minor misstep—it was a government blatantly diverting public funds to secure its own re-election. Propping up such a government would have been a betrayal of public trust.
Pinning the blame on Layton because the only viable alternative brokerage party to form government was the Conservative Party is absurd. That’s not on him; it’s on the corrupt Liberal party establishment of the time for destroying their own credibility. A lot of voters are only used to the reformed Liberal Party under Trudeau, but there was a point in time where the Liberal party apparatus was very different.
Let’s be clear: the fault lies with those who abused their power, not with those who refused to stand by and enable it. Misrepresenting this as opportunism is a deliberate distortion of the facts, designed to deflect attention from the real issue—a government that deserved to fall. Just admit you’re pro-corruption and move on.
The Liberal party apparatus is different? News to me.
Do you think it is in Singh’s power to prevent a conservative government? Do you think it was within Layton’s?
Poilievre is winning a majority no matter what, I’d rather get it out of the way sooner instead of sitting through another year of ineffective Liberal virtue signalling.
There a good chance PP will just get more conservative votes in already conservative areas and still end up with a minority.
At that point he’ll have to find another party to work with and he’s already pissed them all off.
What are you basing this on?
The way Canadian elections work.
If more people in rural Alberta vote conservative it won’t add to their seat count but it’ll add to their lead in the polls.
Yes, but what makes you think that that could possibly be what’s about to happen?
I think it is far more likely that liberal voters turnout will be down because of trudeau fatigue, this will cost the liberals battleground ridings. I think conservatives will have higher turnout than normal in traditional red seats since there is now a chance of their vote mattering. And I think that will cost the liberals even more seats.
I base this prediction on liberal party performance in the last two by-elections.
So yours is as much as a guess as mine is?
Conservative voters always vote conservative in every election. Progressive voters and swing voters only vote whenever the hell they feel like it. If conservatives are going up in the polls, that means moderates or progressives are intending to vote conservative, (edit: or that fewer progressives or moderates are planning to vote at all) not that more conservatives are planning to vote instead of not vote.