• alphabethunter@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Sure, don’t trust your government. What are you trusting then? Sure as hell not corporations, I hope. Yourself? That’s what I would call of naiveté. An individual power is irrelevant in the modern world, even most communities are irrelevant (Lemmy is an example, we’re the 0,001%). Revolution sure is a nice idea, but I don’t see anyone getting off their arses and doing it (talking about it on Lemmy doesn’t matter, it’s a tiny little bubble), and honestly, I don’t even think revolutions are technically possible anymore (the powers that be are very keenly aware of its processes, mechanisms and risks, and media manipulation is so fucking easy these days). So you got to do something, you have to stand behind some power that can actually make a difference: there’s only one real/realistic choice: your government. I’ve seen what happens when the left starts voicing their mistrust of the government too carelessly. The right will take those complaints and shift them into their own, and things will snowball very quickly. People often mistake the idea of trust with the idea of blind faith. You can trust someone/something and still complain and fight against some of their actions and decisions. But you have to pick your battles very carefully. If you want a history lesson, look up what happened with Brazil in the period between 2011-2018. I was there, I lived through history. I can tell you that we should all really be fucking afraid of social medias and the internet, and if a government moves aggressively into regulating that, we should take a step back and think very hard while analysing the whole picture. Even if it looks like authoritarianism, it might still be the correct choice.

    • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      3 days ago

      L> What are you trusting then?

      Nothing. I don’t have any particular need for quasi-religious faith in corporations or institutions that protect them like governments. It’s just glorified HR for corporations.

      Yourself? That’s what I would call of naiveté. An individual power is irrelevant in the modern world, even most communities are irrelevant (Lemmy is an example, we’re the 0,001%)

      I don’t really see the relevance.

      Revolution sure is a nice idea, but I don’t see anyone getting off their arses and doing it (talking about it on Lemmy doesn’t matter, it’s a tiny little bubble), and honestly, I don’t even think revolutions are technically possible anymore (the powers that be are very keenly aware of its processes, mechanisms and risks, and media manipulation is so fucking easy these days)

      I agree.

      So you got to do something, you have to stand behind some power that can actually make a difference: there’s only one real/realistic choice: your government.

      The only difference is I don’t believe this either. Governments serve at the pleasure of capital.

      I’ve seen what happens when the left starts voicing their mistrust of the government too carelessly. The right will take those complaints and shift them into their own, and things will snowball very quickly.

      They will do this either way. It’s utterly irrelevant what you say, a determined rightoid will twist it to their gain.

      People often mistake the idea of trust with the idea of blind faith. You can trust someone/something and still complain and fight against some of their actions and decisions.

      Yeah I fundamentally don’t believe it is possible to have a truly beneficial government in any useful modern contemporary sense of the term. The very concentration of power invites corruption.

      But you have to pick your battles very carefully. If you want a history lesson

      Sure.

      look up what happened with Brazil in the period between 2011-2018. I was there, I lived through history.

      So? I lived through history too, extreme poverty in Russia, brief benefits of liberalisation, government overreach and eventually the beginning of fascist wars of conquest, then Brexit in the UK and utter collapse of consensus reality across the west and it’s taught me rather differently.

      I can tell you that we should all really be fucking afraid of social medias and the internet

      I’m never afraid of technology, I’m only afraid of people who use it, and that’s what we oughta be afraid of.

      and if a government moves aggressively into regulating that, we should take a step back and think very hard while analysing the whole picture. Even if it looks like authoritarianism, it might still be the correct choice.

      You never know. But I remain skeptical.

      I can either vote to not pay taxes and slave away with no limit till I croak to maximise shareholder value to accelerate biosphere collapse by rich on yachts or I can pay taxes to fund BBC writing hate and fearmongering articles about my people (trans folks) for the benefit of rich on yachts.

      Not much of a choice, is it? You’ll forgive me then if I stay an anarchist.