I escaped the Reddit regime a little while ago. I consider myself a marxist-leninist-MZT. Vegetarian and vegan for a few years. I’ve a lot of thoughts on how marxism and veganism are connected. Never wrote them down. I’d like to start smth like a club for marxist vegans to develop our own proletarian theory. Most vegan theory I found is either openly bourgeois (Francione is a literal TERF) or revisionist (anti-China, anarchist, libertarian). How about fixing this?
Well you certainly met some polite people and didn’t bother them like you do it online, because here where I live specifically, this shit is not tolerated, of course you can be, it’s your choice and no one would like beat you up because of it if you thought that, but to start to moralize and constantly bother other people with this is not allowed. You’re definitely polite irl and don’t act like those lunatics who barge into restaurants, harass people and steal their animals. There are vegans here but they are in minority as they are everywhere else.
I just mentioned ultra religious people because they can be some of the most annoying people imaginable, yet even they don’t do this and don’t come on this level. I didn’t mention to appeal to anything, just to show how far vegans can go when they surpass even them.
This is the general consensus you’ll get here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/serbia/comments/u0ekxo/what_do_serbians_think_about_vegetarianism/
I just said that I don’t get it, I literally never said that I would like to do it. But most vegans seem to assume that all people want to start to eat only grass so badly and automatically assumed that I wanted it to when I never said that. You’re not going to transform the food chain and diet of entire human race just because you dislike meat, we’re omnivores and if you like taking pills or whatnot later in life because of teeth problems, I’m not the one to judge. Go against slaughterhouses and fast food companies which are inhumane and are consequences of capitalism, but leave normal people and farmers tf alone.
Guess what, my grandparents didn’t send animals to slaughterhouses and didn’t participate in it, they were just normal farmers as are most people from villages here and my uncle is a hunter, not a poacher who kills hundreds of members of near extinct species. If you cared so much about nature you’d know that plants are also living things, yet you eat them? Wait, even some plants are carnivorous.
And of course, a certain Austrian painter was a vegan later in his life, is he by any chance better than 99% of human population which eats meat just because of it? So if you’re going to equate eating a fish or drinking milk with blowing up a building full of innocent civilians, don’t do it with other people. Communism is a political ideology and being vegan is dietary choice, a communist shouldn’t give a shit if someone is vegan/vegetarian or not and certainly not try to brainwash people into it.
I don’t really care to step into this back and forth as a whole, but Hitler wasn’t vegan or vegetarian. He just liked dogs. That was a lie made up by Goebbels to make him seem more sympathetic and his private chefs admit to making meat for him regularly.
Not before the war, during.
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