It was an account level ban issued by Reddit. The account was perma’d by an angy Reddit admit in response to my appeal reply. so once the account was cooked, I deleted it and moved onto another, and the IP ban came after, automatically, for ban evasion. Caught in a situation where I was in violation of the site wide rules just by existing, over a ban they issued out of biased rage.
No, my account was issued an account level ban for a comment on a sub. It had nothing to do from the sub moderators. There was no interaction from them as the comment was pretty standard for the topic at hand.
Im not going to argue with you, theres what happened, and what you think happened based on a story you were told. Arguing over it is a waste of time.
So an admin came and banned you from the site for one single comment with no warning and without any attempt by you at ban invasion?
I would be very curious to see what this comment was and where. Because you’re right - there’s what happened and there’s what sounds like what happened based on the story I’ve been told.
I can’t remember what the topic was, but it was related to Trump, Foreign Affairs, and the Russian invasion of Ukraine / US Aid to Ukraine.
the comment essentially said the following. responding to another comment that was sarcastically suggesting the possibility that President Trump would start militarily aiding Russia. and bomb Ukraine.
I mentioned that “If a US President ended up directley aiding a country that’s been hostile to the US for the last 15-20 years in a shooting war against a country we’ve been helping fend off a monstrous invasion… thats a good way to end up with a dead president”
7 day ban issued for making threats of violence
appeal “There was no threat made, I think whoever issued this ban is a little too close to the politician in question, and acted on behalf of that”.
permanent ban. No foul language was used, No name calling, no trolling.
Simply stating “If a US president decided to suddenly force an alliance with a hostile nation that most of the country believes is an ideological and moral enemy, the people would revolt”
Should be pretty trivial for you to pull up the comment and appeal discussion in question If it was so airtight. I’m not saying mods and Admins are all even-keeled people who always do the right thing, but I’ve also never heard a single person say “I deserved my ban.” Strikes me as odd that literally everyone who was ever banned was banned unjustly, so forgive my healthy skepticism.
We’re just getting your side and even so we’ve gone from “I was banned without warning for one comment that did nothing” to “I was suspended for 7 days then I had an appeal discussion that got me banned.” So already the story has changed a lot in 2 comments. I have a feeling under scrutiny it would change further.
After the API changes Reddit lost several mods of several big subreddits. Many out of protest, others out of annoyance or unwillingness to take up the extra load
The mods on a small sub I still visit apologised at the time that they had to implement strict automod because they could no longer work on the sub in spare time at work, just after work on the desktop using old Reddit and external tools.
Some mods that weren’t protesting left, put off that they couldn’t use their preferred moderation tools built into an app.
So many big subs are moderated by people put in by the admins. Many mods can phone up the person who put them there and say get rid of this troublemaker and the admin will.
Even the subs I visit which are universally small suck more than they used to because there’s so much less human moderation, so much more robot moderation, and they are full of moderated comments where they weren’t so much before
I don’t need a lecture about the event that I was a part of and left the site over lol. I was one of those mods. Look at my username - spez called us “Landed Gentry” during it.
I agree moderation has gotten a lot worse because of the exit of institutional knowledge/people who cared (as self-serving as that perspective is).
IDK if I double replied to this or not.
I deleted the account, can’t pull content from a deleted account, not even on reveddit . Otherwise I’d have no problem, but the more time has gone on, the less I’ve cared about losing reddit aside from access to some specific hobby and help forums. and if its really that bad, I’ll buy a burner phone and go to Mom’s house or something.
Im not losing sleep over convincing or not convincing someone. Its not going to change anything regardless. You can take my word for it, or call me a liar. I dont care, but I wont go in circles over the same point.
my description of the incident embellishes, the reality was it was a lot simpler. I literally just said “After all thats happened, if Trump was to suddenly start aiding Russia, thats how you end up with a dead president”. and that was enough to warrant a top level ban for threatening violence…
It was an account level ban issued by Reddit. The account was perma’d by an angy Reddit admit in response to my appeal reply. so once the account was cooked, I deleted it and moved onto another, and the IP ban came after, automatically, for ban evasion. Caught in a situation where I was in violation of the site wide rules just by existing, over a ban they issued out of biased rage.
so in technicality, yes, its as you said.
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No, my account was issued an account level ban for a comment on a sub. It had nothing to do from the sub moderators. There was no interaction from them as the comment was pretty standard for the topic at hand.
Im not going to argue with you, theres what happened, and what you think happened based on a story you were told. Arguing over it is a waste of time.
So an admin came and banned you from the site for one single comment with no warning and without any attempt by you at ban invasion?
I would be very curious to see what this comment was and where. Because you’re right - there’s what happened and there’s what sounds like what happened based on the story I’ve been told.
Yes.
I can’t remember what the topic was, but it was related to Trump, Foreign Affairs, and the Russian invasion of Ukraine / US Aid to Ukraine. the comment essentially said the following. responding to another comment that was sarcastically suggesting the possibility that President Trump would start militarily aiding Russia. and bomb Ukraine.
I mentioned that “If a US President ended up directley aiding a country that’s been hostile to the US for the last 15-20 years in a shooting war against a country we’ve been helping fend off a monstrous invasion… thats a good way to end up with a dead president”
7 day ban issued for making threats of violence
appeal “There was no threat made, I think whoever issued this ban is a little too close to the politician in question, and acted on behalf of that”.
permanent ban. No foul language was used, No name calling, no trolling.
Simply stating “If a US president decided to suddenly force an alliance with a hostile nation that most of the country believes is an ideological and moral enemy, the people would revolt”
permaban
Should be pretty trivial for you to pull up the comment and appeal discussion in question If it was so airtight. I’m not saying mods and Admins are all even-keeled people who always do the right thing, but I’ve also never heard a single person say “I deserved my ban.” Strikes me as odd that literally everyone who was ever banned was banned unjustly, so forgive my healthy skepticism.
We’re just getting your side and even so we’ve gone from “I was banned without warning for one comment that did nothing” to “I was suspended for 7 days then I had an appeal discussion that got me banned.” So already the story has changed a lot in 2 comments. I have a feeling under scrutiny it would change further.
After the API changes Reddit lost several mods of several big subreddits. Many out of protest, others out of annoyance or unwillingness to take up the extra load
The mods on a small sub I still visit apologised at the time that they had to implement strict automod because they could no longer work on the sub in spare time at work, just after work on the desktop using old Reddit and external tools.
Some mods that weren’t protesting left, put off that they couldn’t use their preferred moderation tools built into an app.
So many big subs are moderated by people put in by the admins. Many mods can phone up the person who put them there and say get rid of this troublemaker and the admin will.
Even the subs I visit which are universally small suck more than they used to because there’s so much less human moderation, so much more robot moderation, and they are full of moderated comments where they weren’t so much before
I don’t need a lecture about the event that I was a part of and left the site over lol. I was one of those mods. Look at my username - spez called us “Landed Gentry” during it.
I agree moderation has gotten a lot worse because of the exit of institutional knowledge/people who cared (as self-serving as that perspective is).
My question is: why are you still there?
Because Reddit is still the only place with large enough communities of various special interests.
IDK if I double replied to this or not. I deleted the account, can’t pull content from a deleted account, not even on reveddit . Otherwise I’d have no problem, but the more time has gone on, the less I’ve cared about losing reddit aside from access to some specific hobby and help forums. and if its really that bad, I’ll buy a burner phone and go to Mom’s house or something.
Im not losing sleep over convincing or not convincing someone. Its not going to change anything regardless. You can take my word for it, or call me a liar. I dont care, but I wont go in circles over the same point.
I don’t think you’re a liar I just think your memory is probably not as accurate as you think it is.
my description of the incident embellishes, the reality was it was a lot simpler. I literally just said “After all thats happened, if Trump was to suddenly start aiding Russia, thats how you end up with a dead president”. and that was enough to warrant a top level ban for threatening violence…
like 1 sentence.