The European Union is moving closer to enacting a law that will require smartphones like the iPhone to have easier battery repairs.

  • ScottTheGeek :verified:@twit.social
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    1 year ago

    @tojikomori As someone who repairs these things I can assure you that it’s possible to have replaceable batteries AND water-proofness. Don’t believe the BS that the manufacturers try to sell you in order to ensure you’re beholden to them for all things.

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      1 year ago

      Yea there were waterproof phones before most phones pivoted to non-removable right?

      I guess another question is whether manufacturers can reach the same current rating on removable battery phones?

        • ScottTheGeek :verified:@twit.social
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          1 year ago

          @RyanHakurei @tojikomori @holo_nexus

          The Samsung Galaxy S5 was IP67 rated and had a removable battery, MicroSD card slot, and headphone jack.

          A better waterproofing rating could be obtained with a screwed-on back panel and gasket. But phone manufacturers are lazy and would rather you buy a new phone when the battery wears out.

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            1 year ago

            A screw-on panel sounds like a good idea to me – a decent balance between replaceability and durability, without overly optimizing for a repair that only happens once or twice in a handset’s lifetime.

            The S5 looked a lot like my first smartphone, and it goes to the other extreme: a flimsy plastic shell over some sturdier plastic that frames the battery and separates its contacts from the phone’s internals. My newer, non-user-replaceable-battery handsets – both Apple and Android – have held together a lot better using fewer materials more judiciously.

            A sweet spot between these extremes (“you need 80 lbs of specialized equipment to replace the battery safely” vs. “let’s pretend people need to swap out phone batteries like AAs”) could be good for me, but I want to know about the trade-offs. Too often legislators and right-to-repair advocates talk as though there are none. Even with a screw-on panel, I’m sure there are trade-offs.

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      1 year ago

      Why should I believe the word of some random person on the internet? Why should the EU? They are going to take testimony from actual engineers who work on this stuff from multiple manufacturers who are going to say it’s not possible and guess what? The EU is going to believe them.

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      1 year ago

      The question isn’t “is it possible?”. It’s “what’s the trade off?”.

      There isn’t a trade off that I wouldn’t consider a massive downgrade to my device.

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        1 year ago

        The tradeoff is that Apple spends R&D resources on making it possible.

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          It’s literally impossible for it to not take a chunk of the volume budget. There is nothing else that could take that space that could possibly have less value to me.

          The EU is trying to fuck up my phone.