I really don’t think it would end up influencing the western userbase. I feel like having China open to western social media platforms without sticking to their guns regarding data collection, management, etc, as well as censorship rules in China, is going to have the opposite effect. Instead of showing the normal western crowd the facts, it’s going to expose the Chinese crowd to USA propaganda. Many will probably be smart enough to see right through it but considering the amount of disinformation I see even on a platform like Xiaohongshu already, I think it would get some penetration. I just don’t see it being in China’s interests to open their internet up for this outside of limited usage for international businesses and researchers. I feel like if they did open up, the CIA is immediately going to flood Chinese users with propaganda designed to try to initiate a color revolution, or maybe designed to get Chinese tech sector to leak their own advances.
Chinese people aren’t as dumb as you’d think; if they wanted to they could easily access the western web already, as many do. Even if they could, would some rando in China really suddenly become anti-government because of some racist guy ranting about the inhumanity of dog-eating asiatics? If anything opening up the internet will strengthen popular support for the government. The west in the eyes of many Chinese internet users is… laughably positive (one expressed surprise that the US could have more income inequality than China), so anything they’d be exposed to, even the most blatant propaganda, would still come as quite a shock to their expectations,
Yeah, I didn’t mean to imply that the Chinese people were unintelligent. I strictly meant to say that the USA has gone out of their way to try to influence and fund anti communist and anti socialist groups wherever they go and this feels like something that, if opened, will immediately be flooded with sinophobic propaganda (at levels even worse than is already prevalent on those platforms). Though, who knows, I’m just your average American, it’s entirely possible I end up being entirely wrong and the Chinese people joining those sites end up radicalising a fuck ton of white people into actually building something new from within. I would love nothing more than to eat my words from my previous comments.
Ah, I see. Sorry if I came off as a bit aggressive. I’m confident that for the reasons I outlined anything the US could do wouldn’t have an effect, and even if it did the CPC would quickly take action. IMO the firewall is already sort of outliving its usefulness, since I can’t stress enough how many people in China truly have little idea what’s going on in the west, at least in my experience.
TBF, a lot of people in the west don’t understand what’s going on in the west either. They’re so busy complaining about the annoying orange in the White House that they are ignoring the shit all the other flavors of liberal running the country are also doing to completely fuck over the proletariat. Insert always been meme regarding fascism and liberalism here.
I really don’t think it would end up influencing the western userbase. I feel like having China open to western social media platforms without sticking to their guns regarding data collection, management, etc, as well as censorship rules in China, is going to have the opposite effect. Instead of showing the normal western crowd the facts, it’s going to expose the Chinese crowd to USA propaganda. Many will probably be smart enough to see right through it but considering the amount of disinformation I see even on a platform like Xiaohongshu already, I think it would get some penetration. I just don’t see it being in China’s interests to open their internet up for this outside of limited usage for international businesses and researchers. I feel like if they did open up, the CIA is immediately going to flood Chinese users with propaganda designed to try to initiate a color revolution, or maybe designed to get Chinese tech sector to leak their own advances.
Chinese people aren’t as dumb as you’d think; if they wanted to they could easily access the western web already, as many do. Even if they could, would some rando in China really suddenly become anti-government because of some racist guy ranting about the inhumanity of dog-eating asiatics? If anything opening up the internet will strengthen popular support for the government. The west in the eyes of many Chinese internet users is… laughably positive (one expressed surprise that the US could have more income inequality than China), so anything they’d be exposed to, even the most blatant propaganda, would still come as quite a shock to their expectations,
Yeah, I didn’t mean to imply that the Chinese people were unintelligent. I strictly meant to say that the USA has gone out of their way to try to influence and fund anti communist and anti socialist groups wherever they go and this feels like something that, if opened, will immediately be flooded with sinophobic propaganda (at levels even worse than is already prevalent on those platforms). Though, who knows, I’m just your average American, it’s entirely possible I end up being entirely wrong and the Chinese people joining those sites end up radicalising a fuck ton of white people into actually building something new from within. I would love nothing more than to eat my words from my previous comments.
Ah, I see. Sorry if I came off as a bit aggressive. I’m confident that for the reasons I outlined anything the US could do wouldn’t have an effect, and even if it did the CPC would quickly take action. IMO the firewall is already sort of outliving its usefulness, since I can’t stress enough how many people in China truly have little idea what’s going on in the west, at least in my experience.
TBF, a lot of people in the west don’t understand what’s going on in the west either. They’re so busy complaining about the annoying orange in the White House that they are ignoring the shit all the other flavors of liberal running the country are also doing to completely fuck over the proletariat. Insert always been meme regarding fascism and liberalism here.