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As a foreigner not living in the US, it is amazing to me how left-right brained people in the US are.
It also requires live hearings and cross-examinations, and allows lawyers to be present at those hearings.
So now, having due process before an accusation ruins a persons life is a bad thing, because it came from Trump.
Absolutely no discourse about the policy itself, just Trump policy = bad.
live… Cross examinations
Of minors in a court setting. What better way to intimidate children into not coming forward than the idea of being put into a spectacle to relive your horror.
Of minors in a court setting.
Hopefully, this is mostly about colleges. I really don’t want to think that minors raping minors is a common issue in the US. …Somehow, I am afraid to check now.
What better way to intimidate children into not coming forward than the idea of being put into a spectacle to relive your horror.
I am not saying it is ideal, but it is not an unmoderated spectacle either. There generally are protections for underage witnesses and witnesses in general even in courts, which this is not. Between that and just assuming a person is guilty, it is the lesser evil to have them testify.
In addition, the fact prosecutors repeatedly refused to prosecute for false accusations when those came to light clearly shows this policy was never done in good fate. Life destroying consequences for the accused with next to no recourse but no consequences for the accuser when they are caught lying is just ridiculous.
There’s no “hopefully” or benefit of the doubt for this guy. He has been proven to be a rapist in court.
Who? Trump? Are you literally incapable of forming two sentences without talking about him?
Your comment reminds me of cars with Lets Go Brandon bumper stickers. Which all started with “impeach, the president and her husband too” bumper stickers during the Clinton administration. That’s when people got so delusional. They started putting the opposition on their vehicle and letting them occupy space in their head full time.
And I know that’s where you were going with your comment. The problem is in this particular situation you look like the person who is unhinged. The entire purpose of this group is about Trump. Every Post in it will be about Trump. Anybody replying to a post is replying about something Trump did. Any comment someone is replying to will be about Trump. This is like the one place where literally everyone has Trump on their mind because that’s the entire reason for existing. So you comment just doesn’t work. If someone wasn’t thinking about Trump while commenting in here that means they’ve gotten off topic.
My point is more along these lines: https://lemmy.world/comment/14877800
That people are bashing on a policy that is IMO good or at least not that bad because of who put it in place.
If that was your point you did a horrible job of making it because you didn’t address their point at all. You talked about their mindset. That’s a complete failure of communication.
It’s bad because of what it is, it’s gross because of who pushed it. You look like a child rapist apologist bud.
Hopefully, this is mostly about colleges
It is not.
Title IX rules for federally funded K-12 schools
You made me think for a moment it was only about K-12 since you left out the “and colleges” part.
Anyway, it is even shittier if they forced minors to face such serious accusations without a lawyer or other adequate representation.
Why are you here? You see people upset about Trump, and your first reaction is “these people are overreacting”.
Then people explain to you why it’s not an overreaction, and once you actually understand what’s happening, you agree?
And yet you continue anyway?
I see you.
You see people upset about Trump, and your first reaction is “these people are overreacting”.
When did I say that?
Did I fucking say you said it?
Of course it’s horrible, but
It reduces the liability placed on schools in sexual misconduct cases. It also requires live hearings and cross-examinations, and allows lawyers to be present at those hearings.
The Biden administration extended sex discrimination protections under Title IX to include sexual orientation and gender identity. Trump informed educational institutions that his administration would no longer enforce those protections.
The headline is clickbaitily (that’s a word now) misleading.
Sure, let’s have lawyers cross examine traumatized children. No way forcing them to go though that in a adversarial way could make the trauma worse or intimidate victims into silence.
Read what I wrote. Of course it’s horrible.
The headline suggests that acts which are currently considered to be sexual assault are no longer going to be considered sexual assault. “Ease sex assault rules.” Yes, the headline is “technically true,” but it is purposely misleading.
Same as this one from the same source. “Trump Admin Emails Air Traffic Controllers: Quit Your Jobs”. Yes, technically true, and still horrible, but it’s the same email that all federal employees got. The administration didn’t specially pick out ATC.
This is how propaganda works. Word things in such a way that they’re true to a very careful reader, and whistle idly while most readers digest a misleading message.
I’m not bOtH sIdEsing this. A lot more propaganda has been put out by the fascists, for longer, and to a greater degree of falsehood. That doesn’t make messages that you want to hear immune from being propagandized. These examples are small potatoes by comparison, sure, but if you want to make accurate judgments and !resist@fedia.io fascists effectively, do so on the basis of actual facts, and point out propagandizing when you see it.
I’m not sure I follow your logic. This doesn’t seem like propaganda to me, or “technically true.” It just flat out is true. The headline doesn’t say that only ATC were receiving the emails. The headline is just highlighting that specific subgroup, because that’s the point of the article. Showing that while yes, all federal employees received those emails, one particular group received those emails, which were sent out shortly before 2 major incidents involving plane crashes.
The point isn’t that only ATC received this email. It’s about the consequences of sending this out to all federal federal employees across the board, and highlighting the risk of this using an example of consequences that have already happened. And most likely the buyouts aren’t directly responsible for the crashes, the timeline seems too quick for that. But considering that ATC is already understaffed, this is only going to exacerbate the problem we’re already seeing.
If I take a sledgehammer to all my walls, and knock down a load bearing wall in the process and cause the building to collapse, would you be upset about a headline reading “Man causes building collapse after knocking down load bearing wall”? Would you consider it propaganda because I wasn’t only knocking down load bearing walls, I was knocking down all the walls. Or would you understand that the headline is highlighting the part of the story that is relevant to the article that is being written.
I do agree with you on the main headline though. If I’m understanding the article correctly, they’re easing protections against gender and sexual orientation based protections, and increasing the hoops sexual assault victims have to jump through. So the headline is just blatantly misleading.
