They lost didn’t they? That sounds like a win. They can either start complying with the demands of those holding them accountable or continue to lose. It’s liberals that allowed them to do whatever they wanted to for 50 years with no repercussions is why things have gotten so bad
If your a god-fearing white American man, maybe… Nah not even then if you aren’t wealthy. But everyone else in the states is unambiguously more boned than we’ve been since pre-civil rights era, let alone the Biden administration. And outside of the United States, what country other than Russia has found themselves in a better place since the inauguration?
Look you have a point, the Dems are beyond worthless, and now that we’re post-election this is the perfect time either get them into shape or replace them “tea party” style. Those fossils need to be gone. But nobody fucking “won” last election, save a privaleged few including Putin and Netanyahu. And Trump & friends obviously, but that goes without sayin.
No, because we don’t regret our decisions. But we are making our decisions, not decisions that have made been made for you the way the DNC manufacturers your choices
Yes, I’m aware that you think this way. Ukrainians, Gazans, people in the West Bank, “illegal” immigrants, legal immigrants, scientists, working people, journalists, and lots and lots of other people have already been sacrificed so that you could get your “win.” Good stuff! Have you talked to them about how proud you are of the desired outcome? We’re only a couple months in. It’s going to get much, much worse for them.
If you want to make the US system better, including the Democrats, that sounds absolutely fucking fantastic. Simply not voting for them until they get better on their own, usually pushes them to the right, not the left. That’s pretty much what happened from 1969 to 1993, and what turned the party of JFK, LBJ, and Jimmy Carter into the party of Bill Clinton, and ushered in our current shattered state. If you want to keep going that direction, you are not on the left.
Keep the marginalized out of your mouth, liberals only care about them to whiteknight and use them as political pawns so they can stay in power. If Democrats actually cared like they claim they wouldn’t be marginalized.
Failure of voters holding them accountable is what turned the party from Jimmy Carter to Bill Clinton to barely left of Trump. Voters allowed them to do whatever they wanted with no consequence so, like a dog that gets a treat after pissing on the floor, they kept pissing on the floor. Now you are buried in 50 years of piss and shit.
Anyone voting for, or advocating a vote for Democrats is not the left. You are enablers of right wing fascism.
Bro, you patted yourself on the back for fucking over Ukraine, Palestine, and America. I didn’t put those marginalized people in the conversation, you did.
Failure of voters holding them accountable is what turned the party from Jimmy Carter to Bill Clinton to barely left of Trump.
Lol
How did the voters fail to hold them accountable? There was one Democrat that won one single term over those 24 years, until the Democrats finally tacked all the way to the right with Clinton. What are you saying the voters should have done differently? They pursued exactly your strategy.
Go back and look at your first two comments when you replied to me here.
You started an argument, and now you’re unhappy that you are in an argument. Okay. If you don’t have an answer for my question, just say something else. It doesn’t have to be “Hey, that’s a really good point, maybe refusing to vote for Democrats until they get better on their own is abundantly proven to be a dogshit strategy, and I should advocate for something else.” Although, you could say that, and we could have a conversation about what a winning strategy could be. Something productive, you know? To me, that would be good.
They lost didn’t they? That sounds like a win. They can either start complying with the demands of those holding them accountable or continue to lose. It’s liberals that allowed them to do whatever they wanted to for 50 years with no repercussions is why things have gotten so bad
If your a god-fearing white American man, maybe… Nah not even then if you aren’t wealthy. But everyone else in the states is unambiguously more boned than we’ve been since pre-civil rights era, let alone the Biden administration. And outside of the United States, what country other than Russia has found themselves in a better place since the inauguration?
Look you have a point, the Dems are beyond worthless, and now that we’re post-election this is the perfect time either get them into shape or replace them “tea party” style. Those fossils need to be gone. But nobody fucking “won” last election, save a privaleged few including Putin and Netanyahu. And Trump & friends obviously, but that goes without sayin.
Let the party burn to the ground
Now sure, it’s not like we’re having a free election again after the last one
Lemmy edgelords: Bro we don’t need voting, we just need people in the streets
(Elections end)
Lemmy edgelords: Bro this is WAY WAY FUCKING HARDER than voting was
No, because we don’t regret our decisions. But we are making our decisions, not decisions that have made been made for you the way the DNC manufacturers your choices
Yes, I’m aware that you think this way. Ukrainians, Gazans, people in the West Bank, “illegal” immigrants, legal immigrants, scientists, working people, journalists, and lots and lots of other people have already been sacrificed so that you could get your “win.” Good stuff! Have you talked to them about how proud you are of the desired outcome? We’re only a couple months in. It’s going to get much, much worse for them.
If you want to make the US system better, including the Democrats, that sounds absolutely fucking fantastic. Simply not voting for them until they get better on their own, usually pushes them to the right, not the left. That’s pretty much what happened from 1969 to 1993, and what turned the party of JFK, LBJ, and Jimmy Carter into the party of Bill Clinton, and ushered in our current shattered state. If you want to keep going that direction, you are not on the left.
Keep the marginalized out of your mouth, liberals only care about them to whiteknight and use them as political pawns so they can stay in power. If Democrats actually cared like they claim they wouldn’t be marginalized.
Failure of voters holding them accountable is what turned the party from Jimmy Carter to Bill Clinton to barely left of Trump. Voters allowed them to do whatever they wanted with no consequence so, like a dog that gets a treat after pissing on the floor, they kept pissing on the floor. Now you are buried in 50 years of piss and shit.
Anyone voting for, or advocating a vote for Democrats is not the left. You are enablers of right wing fascism.
Bro, you patted yourself on the back for fucking over Ukraine, Palestine, and America. I didn’t put those marginalized people in the conversation, you did.
Lol
How did the voters fail to hold them accountable? There was one Democrat that won one single term over those 24 years, until the Democrats finally tacked all the way to the right with Clinton. What are you saying the voters should have done differently? They pursued exactly your strategy.
Arguing with liberals is exhausting, no different than their Republican counterparts.
Go back and look at your first two comments when you replied to me here.
You started an argument, and now you’re unhappy that you are in an argument. Okay. If you don’t have an answer for my question, just say something else. It doesn’t have to be “Hey, that’s a really good point, maybe refusing to vote for Democrats until they get better on their own is abundantly proven to be a dogshit strategy, and I should advocate for something else.” Although, you could say that, and we could have a conversation about what a winning strategy could be. Something productive, you know? To me, that would be good.
I didn’t start an argument, I pointed out fact. But liberal hubris like yours is what has contributed to our current situation.