Roughly $11.1 trillion has been wiped away from the U.S. stock market since Jan. 17, the Friday before President Donald Trump took the oath of office and began his second term, according to data from Dow Jones Market Data.

Some $6.6 trillion of that figure was lost on Thursday and Friday alone — the largest two-day wipeout of shareholder value on record, Dow Jones data showed.

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    23 hours ago

    Or regular people all losing money they had invested

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      I have parents who are near retirement who voted for trump. Only my dad works and has to support my mom. This upcoming weekend, I’m gonna ask him how his portfolio is looking. If his vote is paying off.

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      There’s more people who don’t have investments than there are that do. That includes 401k. Welcome to the poor people’s club.

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        50% of the country has a 401k and like 40% has an IRA… They are not worth much, that is the point the poor people can’t afford to get more poor, the rich people can. they’ve realized theres nothing else their money can buy so their happy to destroy the world out of boredom. And you cheer them on.

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          My info was outdated, but where an I cheering it on? Is there some invisible message my reply had that I’m not seeing?

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        Even if this were true, are you pretty much saying everyone that had a 401k can f off? Like, what exactly is your point? It’s okay for everyone to suffer?

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            My apologies I thought you were the same person from the beginning of the thread, which would have changed the meaning behind what you said.

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          Source that’s not so heavily “invested” in the answer perhaps? I can’t read this ad-ridden garage.

          Is it enough to stay that most Americans stocks are the smallest of their saving vehicles? Most people have the bulk of value in their home not their 401k.

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            Even the union worker who doesn’t have a Schwab account has their pension invested in the market.

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            Correct. Which makes sense when you consider home prices have gone up alot in the last 20 years, and an unaware investors portfolio is probably being slowly bled off by covering the mortgage of that house every time we go into a recession which is basically on a 2 year cycle now.

            So yes you are right, and you are so smart and a very good boi. But you are missing the bigger picture of American wealth distribution. Missing out on how jobs are tied to the market, income is needed for investment and selling investments when you lose your job and they are down 50% just shoots most of the country into poverty.

            Surprise its the great depression!

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              I’m not good and not a boi/boy/guy/whatever, but thanks I guess.

              I was more interested in getting to the fact that everyday American don’t rely on the stock market directly. If you are hurting directly in this downturn, you needed to have less volatile investments to begin with. Americans do have some small direct market investments but they are dwarfed compared to their other stores of value and to the quantity of money in the market from non-consumer level individuals.

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                When you say ‘don’t rely on the stock market directly’ you’re aware of the second and third order effects from a market crash right?

                The president just crashed the market harder than Covid for no reason, and you’re telling me i need less volatile investments? What investment would that be out of curiosity?

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      Dude how many of the 49% of USA citizens who can’t even handle a 1k USD emergency spend have stocks or options

      How many of the 120 million people who have feared for years that they won’t get to enjoy their social security have stocks or options

      Because that’s the regular people

      Are you even reading yourself

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        I’m sorry to tell you but everyone is screwed except the billionairs who will just buy everything for pennies on the dollar. What do you think companies will do when their stocks are crashing? They will lay off more people until they inevitably go belly up and then all of those people are out of jobs. Shit is about to get real.

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        Millions of people have 401k plans through their employers and have had them for years and are counting on them to live when they retire.

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        401ks are invested. People losing their retirement funds. I personally don’t have any because I had to use mine up last time I was between jobs for a year, but many innocent people who aren’t rich and voted against Trump are being hurt as well.

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        Well over 49% of usa Americans make enough to save a thousand dollars . Many are just that bad at managing money. Part of why pensions are important over 401ks.

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          buddy 401k contributions come out of your paycheck. you can’t equate one with the other. Most people usually check the box to take taxes and contributions out of their paycheck and don’t consider their retirement account emergency savings.

          the point your missing is it often is. and it usually equates to to stock market losses. So stock market crashes are when the rich make the poor poorer.

          Yet here you poors go cheering on everyones grandma to starve to death. Far left and far right horseshoe death cult assemble.

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          the deep irony of slashing pensions for 401k claiming that americans could invest better for their own retirement. They are not cheering crashing 401ks and rushing to cut social security like they also have a concept of a plan for retirement.