• CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz
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    11 hours ago

    I was with you until “they should be looking east”.

    No, we shouldn’t. We should be looking to strengthen Europe. If anywhere, we should be looking south, to the decent countries that do exist in South America and Africa. Despite all the issues with the US you point out (that I largely agree with), they’re still a quasi-democracy, that doesn’t regularly disappear dissidents or wipe out ethnic groups. They’ve shown that they’re volatile and untrustworthy, that doesn’t make China or russia a better alternative.

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      10 hours ago

      Wipe out ethnic groups? I mean they invade but Uighur and Tibetan ethnic groups still flourish. Are there other examples?

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      11 hours ago

      regularly disappear dissidents or wipe out ethnic groups

      The US does that constantly everywhere.

      And do you think the African or South-American countries that have been colonised and leeched by Europe want to cooperate with us?
      No, they turn to BRICS if they are not ruled by some vasal puppet.
      What have we done for them?
      We made Frontex, defending Fortress Europe shoot at immigrant boats and turning them away effectively sending them to their death.
      They wouldn’t even be immigrants if we hadn’t meddled in their countries and fucked them up.
      Also heavily complicit in the Palestinian genocide.
      Think those countries like our ‘European values’ the EU political ghouls keep talking about?

      Russia is our neighbour and we need to live in peace with them.
      There wouldn’t be a Ukraine war if the US hadn’t caused regime change.
      And now we suffer the consequences from sanctions while the US profits from them.
      And China, the most important economy in the world should also not be our enemy.
      That only benefits the US who want to see this happen exclusively for their own interests.

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        1 hour ago

        Be russia.

        Sovereign nation, not a US puppet.

        Invades another sovereign nation.

        “This would never have happened if the US hadn’t forced us!”

        The dissonance is so extreme it’s not even funny. Do you honestly believe that russia is standing up to the US, and not controlled by the US, and at the same time that they have no choice in the matter of whether hundreds of thousands of russians should die and be maimed in Ukraine?

        Either russia is a US puppet, the US orchestrated the war, and the US is to blame; or russia is acting of its own accord, and are the sole country responsible for the war starting and continuing. You can’t have it both ways.

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          not controlled by the US

          LOL please do explain. Always ready for comedy.
          And 2014 was a textbook funded US coup.
          Plenty of facts and tactics they used to escalate the conflict such as shooting at both sides.
          Just ignore that, or the Nuland-Pyatt call literally deciding who would be president.
          The east and south didn’t want to live under a US installed Banderite regime.
          They got brutally attacked.
          And somewhere it stops, if you think Russia should take ukraine in NATO with nukes aimed at them by NATO, with no time to react you are wrong.