• reksas@sopuli.xyz
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    21 hours ago

    word lying would imply intent. Is this pseudocode

    print “sky is green” lying or doing what its coded to do?

    The one who is lying is the company running the ai

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      20 hours ago

      It’s lying whether you do it knowingly or not.

      The difference is whether it’s intentional lying.
      Lying is saying a falsehood, that can be both accidental or intentional.
      The difference is in how bad we perceive it to be, but in this case, I don’t really see a purpose of that, because an AI lying makes it a bad AI no matter why it lies.

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        16 minutes ago

        Actually no, “to lie” means to say something intentionally false. One cannot “accidentally lie”

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        19 hours ago

        I just think lying is wrong word to use here. Outputting false information would be better. Its kind of nitpicky but not really since choice of words affects how people perceive things. In this matter it shifts the blame from the company to their product and also makes it seem more capable than it is since when you think about something lying, it would also mean that something is intelligent enough to lie.

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          19 hours ago

          Outputting false information

          I understand what you mean, but technically that is lying, and I sort of disagree, because I think it’s easier for people to be aware of AI lying than “Outputting false information”.

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            19 hours ago

            I think the disagreement here is semantics around the meaning of the word “lie”. The word “lie” commonly has an element of intent behind it. An LLM can’t be said to have intent. It isn’t conscious and, therefor, cannot have intent. The developers may have intent and may have adjusted the LLM to output false information on certain topics, but the LLM isn’t making any decision and has no intent.

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              19 hours ago

              IMO parroting lies of others without critical thinking is also lies.

              For instance if you print lies in an article, the article is lying. But not only the article, if the article is in a paper, the paper is also lying.
              Even if the AI is merely a medium, then the medium is lying. No matter who made the lie originally.

              Then we can debate afterwards the seriousness and who made up the lie, but the lie remains a lie no-matter what or who repeats it.

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            19 hours ago

            Well, I guess its just a little thing and doesn’t ultimately matter. But little things add up