• Ulrich@feddit.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    35
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 day ago

    Epic only does it because they know they’re the underdog. If that were to one day become untrue they would never do anything like this again.

    • MudMan@fedia.io
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 day ago

      I mean, yeah.

      You sorta figured out competition in marketplaces.

      Hey, I’m a social democrat. I’m all for intervening in markets, but for commodity entertainment products competition works pretty well, as you just explained.

      • jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        6 hours ago

        but no, steam has maintained its 30% cut since its inception do you know the rate publishers like EA demand? 50%. EA is just pissed valve is a better and more reasonable publisher than they are.

        so long as EA and other publishers exist and are taking a bigger cut than valve. I’m happy to give valve a pass atm at the better option.

        the issue at hand atm is gamers won’t tolerate price increases and inflation has cut into the original profit margin. and so publishers are running around screaming about valve’s 30% cut when they demand a larger cut.

        • MudMan@fedia.io
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          6 hours ago

          You are mistaking publishing for distribution.

          Publishing is not distribution.

          • jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            6 hours ago

            smile the whole point of publishers back in the day before the internet was distribution and marketing. no I am not mistaking one for the other.

            • MudMan@fedia.io
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              6 hours ago

              No, you absolutely are. Publishers will typically pay for retail manufacturing costs (so printing, boxing and shipping), but that’s not the same as digital distribution. Digital distribution doesn’t map to shipping game boxes, it maps to retail.

              Which is why games on Steam have deals with publishers, NOT with Valve.

              • jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                55 minutes ago

                No, I’m not. you’re assuming i am. game developers dont generally have the relationships with distributors. the whole point of a publisher is to handle that relationship + the relationship with marketing avenues.

                with digital distribution the role of a publisher is greatly reduced. mostly down to just marketing.

    • morrowind@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      1 day ago

      They will continue doing it if they need to compete. Capitalism working as intended. Who would’ve thought

      • Ulrich@feddit.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 day ago

        Sure, I’m just saying Epic is not any better than Valve in that regard. They’re just in a different position. It wouldn’t make financial sense for Steam to do something like that.

    • Velypso@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      1 day ago

      And steam doesn’t do it at all.

      One approach is objectively better for the little guys than the other.

      • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        5 hours ago

        One approach is objectively better for the little guys than the other.

        I’m a littler guy than any game company, Epic treats me like shit. So I’m not going to use Epic.

      • Ulrich@feddit.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 day ago

        Sure, I’m just saying Epic is not any better than Valve in that regard. They’re just in a different position.