• rottingleaf@lemmy.world
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    8 小时前

    Ethnic slurs are a subset of insults here. Not much different from addressing someone’s body features, impairments, life story specifics.

    There is no situation where you are on the right side when using a slur.

    Of course there is, every time it’s a minor part of the event. Like 3000 is greater than 2001, despite 1 being greater than 0. Seems simple enough.

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      8 小时前

      Ethnic slurs are different because of their historical (and still contemporary) usage in dehumanizing and oppressing groups of people. And, again, why are you listing other ways to insult people, as if they are fine when they’re not?

      Life is a rarely a zero-sum exchange, and quite often both sides aren’t perfect people. Just because someone slapped you after you called them a slur doesn’t mean you’re now in the right because they escalated to physical violence.

      Like I fundamentally am having trouble relating to you on this. I can’t tell if your mental is that fucked, if you are terrible at explaining something I’m missing, or if you’re trying to troll. I’ve come across differences in opinions, based on severity and direction. It feels like we’re not using the same system.

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        7 小时前

        And, again, why are you listing other ways to insult people, as if they are fine when they’re not?

        God, are you dense.

        Life is a rarely a zero-sum exchange, and quite often both sides aren’t perfect people. Just because someone slapped you after you called them a slur doesn’t mean you’re now in the right because they escalated to physical violence.

        You even write that yourself. When someone is violating your private space or just attacking you on the street because they don’t like you for whatever reason (autistic people get a lot of that) and they are a humiliated good-for-nothing creature with no other ways to reinforce their self-confidence, you might say a lot of things including slurs to get rid of them, and be right.

        Like I fundamentally am having trouble relating to you on this. I can’t tell if your mental is that fucked, if you are terrible at explaining something I’m missing, or if you’re trying to troll. I’ve come across differences in opinions, based on severity and direction. It feels like we’re not using the same system.

        No, you are trying to play intelligent refusing to admit you get a very simple mechanism.

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          6 小时前

          Aight, we’re done. Your social logic works in a way I am uninterested in interfacing with and your capacity to misinterpret simple scenarios has made the outlook of you developing nuance, unfavorable.

          Have fun calling angry people slurs.

          Edit: I just had to add that the whole thought process is so fundamentally flawed. Why would you double-down on using inflammatory language like slurs that you’ve noted made them act more aggressively to you, if your goal is purported to get them to leave? They name-drop autism but I ain’t never seen someone so divorced from understanding the cause and effects of social levers before.

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          7 小时前

          Have you considered that the other person here is of perfectly normal intelligence, and you’re just very bad at explaining your position on an extremely sensitive subject? Seriously, I hope you’re just badly fumbling this because oh boy are you presenting yourself like an asshole right now. I’m skeptical that’s it, since you’re clearly lashing out by insulting their intelligence (which frequently correlates) but I also understand how frustrating it can be to try and explain things and be repeatedly told it’s problematic. Maybe take a breath and try this one again. Or just tell me to fuck off, settling the matter and letting us downvote you with a clear conscience

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            and you’re just very bad at explaining your position on an extremely sensitive subject?

            An extremely sensitive subject is normally discussed the same way as an absolutely mundane subject, just very sensitive.

            Like a big system is like a small system, just big. And vice versa.

            Order of statements in a conversation or actions in a conflict matters, and a statement or an action can have different weight.

            Quite obviously if you are generally right, but have used some nasty insults, you are still generally right. Even if the other side is perfectly polite.