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    Wait you first blame us for not having free speach, because lying about the holocaust is illegal and now you ban boycotting Israel for engaging in a de facto genocide?

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    Amendment I

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

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    How do I boycott Israel in the first place? Not booking my next vacation there? Do I get 20 years in prison for that?

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      They make a surprising amount of things. I noticed a woodworking tool I have was made in Israel. Never expected that.

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        I have a plastic table I use for woodworking and general carpentry that I later found out might be made in Israel, the brand is Keter. I see they sell lots of outdoor storage solutions locally as well, will avoid that brand in the future. Out of interest, what did you buy so I know what to look out for?

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    Law is summarized as:

    Prohibited actions include (1) refusing to do business with companies organized under the laws of the boycotted country, if the refusal is pursuant to an agreement with or request from the country or IGO imposing the boycott; (2) refusing to employ any U.S. person on the basis of race, religion, sex, or national origin; and (3) furnishing information about whether someone is associated with charitable or fraternal organizations that support the boycotted country.

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      So it seems like if you decide not to buy a shirt made in Israel because the EU suggests a boycott, you go to jail and/or get fined. Clear violation of the 1st ammendment.

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        Practically, how do you prosecute someone for not voluntarily consuming a good or service?

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          I’m guessing you can’t but this might be aimed at businesses where there could be memos maybe?

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            Even then that only works if they specificy that it’s because of a boycott, they could refuse to do business because the other guy smelt like a vegetarian omelette MRE which would be a valid reason. Anti-boycott laws are pretty universally easy to get around since a boycott functions on the principal of “I’m not buying that” which is pretty hard to prove the reasoning to.

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    Didn’t CU rule that spending money is free speech? So isn’t compelling the spending of money compelling speech? Sounds straight up unconstitutional.(as if that fucking matters these days)

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      Rich people spending money is free speech.

      Anti-genocide activists not spending money is terrorism.

      AKA the usual.

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      Wait, doesn’t your argument support their bill?

      They’re agreeing with you; they are suggesting that convincing people of what to do with their money is infringing on their “speech.”

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        My argument is that republicans are never consistent with their policies.

        Spending isn’t free speech. The government cannot compell speech. This doesn’t not mean that the government can compell spending (I mean, it sorta can with taxes and fines, but it can’t compell spending to select businesses, markets or groups.)

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        Is it saying it’s illegal to “convince”(therefore not the consumer) or it’s illegal to “participate” (meaning the consumer)

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    I’m going to guess that they’re trying to make it seem like boycotts are a serious threat. It’s a start but not enough.

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    Can someone explain why Israel is so important to them? Aren’t these the same people who are antisemic? Additionally, how does supporting Israel make the us a Christian nation?

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      Evangelical Christianity is a death cult predicated on Israel’s existence and eventual destruction.

      All those Christian “friends of Israel” long to see every Israeli dead. Because that means the end of the world. White Jesus comes back. A horn is blown. World War ending specifically in fire. Not a flood this time cuz God pinky swore not to.

      And everyone except for 144,000 of the most insane Christians is damned to hellfire for all eternity. Jebus rebuilds heaven on Earth.

      That’s the whole story. From an Exvangelical who was raised in this snake-fuckingly crazy nonsense.

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        Lol, imagine someone attacks Israel with a nuke, triggers an entire nuclear armageddon, and the whole world is englufed in “fire and brimstone,” and the crazy mother fuckers were right all along.

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        If they want every Israeli dead, then why are they trying to save Israel? Maybe a better question is, do they want the end of the world now or is it this something they want to look forward to?

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      For a lot of evangelicals and orthodox jews, they believe the Third Temple must be built at Temple Mount for the Messiah to return/come. Christians are a death cult and it’s part of their eschatology to work towards those ends to bring about the Second Coming and the rise of New Jerusalem/Zion.

      In terms of realpolitik Israel is a strategic foothold in an geographically important area rich with resources and trade routes.

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      The American economy since WW2 has relied on funding and supplying armed conflict.

      No other entity has supplied more justification for that end.

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    How do you outlaw a boycott? It’s not an act, it’s a non-act. An absence of a purchase. How do you distinguish boycott from just not buying something you don’t want or need like any other item. Are we going to be required to put so much of our purchases toward Isreal now?

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    First you get people comfortable with defending genocide in another country, then they won’t be so resistant when you start doing it in your own country.

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    Republicans do this shit because it makes people vote against Democrats

    • Far right zionists vote against Democrats because most Democrats will oppose it
    • Leftists vote against Democrats because a few of them will support it

    Pure win for Republicans.

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      They dont, they boycotting is aim at company that actively participate in the genocide. Microsoft Cloud and AI services for and other Software and Hardware companies for example. Companies that donate money to them or they have headquarter in illegal occupied land. And many others. The BDS movement for example provide a list of companies highlighted by the United Nations to be performing illegal activities in the west bank.

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        (not to be pedantic)

        but it’s both, both boycott Israel companies and products (like hummus illegally farmed in the West Bank. but also companies who participate and engage in Apartheid, like Coca cola that has bottling plants in the west bank as well. or companies that profit from their apartheid, like CAT, or Microsoft/google…

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    Hopefully someone makes a list of brands and companies that you aren’t allowed to boycot according to usa republicans and then publishes that list online on a user friendly website. After all, without that information, people might be unknowingly breaking the law when they start a personal boycot.

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      Genius. Unfortunately, they will most likely target anti-genocide activist, check their phone for any BDS material and charge them with this.

      It is not for the masses it is for the vocal once.