• Luffy@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    No it does not.

    TL;DR: People who cant use linux never learned the basics of computers. They just learned where to click to do x and where to do y in windows, and they just instantly lock up once anything is different

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      People who cant use linux never learned the basics of computers

      that’s like 80% of all people

      • And you know what? A lot of people don’t give a shit; they just want it to work. They have no interest, desire, or - frankly - need to know how L2 caches work. Or devices drivers. Or the difference between Wayland and X11.

        Just as I have no interest or need to be able to take my car’s engine apart. I don’t want to have you stop on my way to the grocery store and fiddle under the hood so that I can make a right turn that my car, for some reason, is refusing to do.

        Elitism is not a good attitude.

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          The problem with your argument is that you are phrasing that as a problem with how the OS is not able to do what you want. But Linux is able to do whatever you ask it to. The real problem is companies.

          Most of the problems Windows users have with Linux is “Software X is not working in Linux” followed by “Alternative Software Y is too weird/quirky/broken on Linux”. This used to be a problem with Gaming. With the investment of Valve into Linux, the scene there has dramatically shifted. Yet, you have cases like that of Roblox whose software is clearly capable of running on Linux but they deliberately hobble it and only support Windows. The important thing is that free software is written and maintained by people in their free time for free. So you can’t expect the same level of polish as a dedicated company working on the software (Of course I can point to beautiful exceptions like Blender, VLC, etc.)

          So essentially the problem is two fold:

          1. Software/Game vendors don’t want to support Linux
          2. Microsoft benefits from having it this way so they bribe their way into having Windows on retail hardware.

          Nowadays you can find laptops from manufacturers like Tuxedo or Framework, or even Dell/Lenovo where if you chose to go without windows they often discount your purchase by $100 or in some cases even $200!

          So it turns out Microsoft got greedy and is charging like 10% of hardware price as the cost of having Windows pre-installed. (Citation needed, I learnt it here on the fediverse)

          You and other people who want their stuff to just work are correct about the assessment of what needs to happen in Linux for it to catch up with Mac or Windows, but are incorrectly attributing the steep gradient set by Microsoft/Apple to inadequacy on the part of Linux.

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        1 day ago

        I’ll up that to 99%.

        None of the people I know who aren’t in an IT job or in a relationship with one who is knows how to use a computer.

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          it does kinda fit in that if you forced people to learn linux, the basic stuff most people do should in the end not be much more difficult than windows (assuming you don’t run into more bugs)

          but that would never happen unless a “linux revolution” was already in full swing

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            People are running in all kinds of bugs with Windows, just look at their forums.

            The major difference is that people have been using Windows all their life and they’ve learned how to circumvent their bugs and hiccup.

            Switching to Linux means people will have to learn a new flow and it turns off a lot of people, simply by the fact that they have been using the same OS all their life and can’t bother to learn something new.

            And that’s all fine. But to go in your direction, when more manufacturers will offer 100-120$ off on Linux computers (because you don’t pay the Windows license), it will probably boost Linux adoption rate.