My primary argument is that they post hateful content and covid conspiracies and it is irresponsible to platform this by including it in our federation. Secondly we already got rid of lemmygrad. Thirdly, there’s little to be lost in the defederation given the type of stuff being posted over there. Do as thou wilt

Aye and nays pls

Edit: putting the screencaps I posted below here for clarity

I should probably put a content warning so

CW: homophobia, transphobia, and just being a shithead.

Edit 2: let’s try not to downvote people just saying nay. Unless they are making bad faith arguments we should respect their opinions even if we disagree.

Edit 3: Imma be real with y’all, this has been a real shitshow. We gotta work out some kinda single voting infrastructure because the ayes and Nays isn’t efficient at all.

  • aspseka@sh.itjust.works
    107·
    1 year ago

    Please don’t try to protect people from opinions. Eventually they find out and feel lied to.

    • Hagarashi8@sh.itjust.works
      33·
      1 year ago

      They are not just sharing opinions. It’s hate against minorities. As overused it may sound, this is one of times when it’s really hate and not just irony.

      • aspseka@sh.itjust.works
        75·
        1 year ago

        Every opinion might sound as ideological or hateful or aggressive or oppressive by some… Of course, everyone is biased about what they deem acceptable.

        Totally get that these posts offend people - and that maybe that was the intention. On the other hand, poorly rationed opions from another place of the spectrum offend the far-right or the far-left…

        • Hagarashi8@sh.itjust.works
          52·
          1 year ago

          If it would be nice if it would be just one or two unintentional offending posts, but there’s a lot of examples even in the post, where it’s clear that they want to offend people, and i would like to keep this place away from intentionally offending content.

          • Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works
            74·
            1 year ago

            If you want to be protected from hateful people, use beehaw. I came to ShitJustWorks specifically because they don’t block instances at a whim.

            • Hagarashi8@sh.itjust.works
              52·
              1 year ago

              This instance is not very different for lemmygrad in terms of how hateful they are and lemmygrad is defederated, so see no reason why this one shouldn’t be defederated.

              • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works
                41·
                1 year ago

                From what I understand, Lemmygrad has been widely defederated because their members tend to troll and brigade other instances. Apart from 1 user earlier today, I have yet to see evidence that’s happening with exploding-heads (yet)

                • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
                  41·
                  1 year ago

                  They were defederated because The Dude decided to make it so at inception and they never gave a real explanation as to why, so it’s not a very good example.

    • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
      12·
      1 year ago

      There’s a difference between opinions based on facts and opinions people pretend are based on facts like you see on the extremes. Funny you should say “people will feel lied to” when both the alt-right and tankies lie to argue.

      • aspseka@sh.itjust.works
        32·
        1 year ago

        Totally concur. But let’s face it, you cannot make these “arguments” go aways by sweeping them under the carpet. They exist. People learned how to to deal with them. Bluny put: If you know bs arguments all along they don’t catch you by surprise and “convince” you.