Wow, this thread is full of Russian bots and Trump supporters. Biden is the picture of health, extremely spry and cognizant, personally, I thought he handled himself very well in the debates, despite the media attacking him unfairly over his stutter. Regardless, he’s the nominee, whether you like him or not, no amount of complaining will change that. He’s the lesser evil so we’re stuck with him and you just have to vote for him, unconditionally.
There’s actually a really fun followup missing where they talk about how Harris gives them hope that they didn’t have with Biden and how they can finally see victory.
But I could see how we would miss that because it was a really brief window before we actually just return to above because “now is not the time to be voicing opinions to your leaders and telling them what you want from their potential win to get your vote” and they went right back to we needed cult like following of Biden because we can all agree Harris offered nothing.
I dunno. I upvoted it, because it’s a really spot-on parody of the kind of comments a lot of people were making last fall. At the time, though, I was more or less in that camp. Not because I actually wanted Biden, but because it seemed like we were stuck with him as the nominee, and Trump was the only alternative.
Yeah, because voting third party has got you what so far? You’re just a pot calling a kettle black. Both you and the people you’re making fun of are equally useless.
What? In 2024 stein got 870k, RFK got 750k, Oliver got 650k and de la Cruz got 168k.
In 2020 jogergensen got 1.85 mil, Hawkins got 400k de la Fuente got 90k, and a few others around the same
In 2016 Johnson got 4.4 mil, stein got 1.4 mil, mcmullin got 730k.
If anything, third party voting has gone down. How can you claim that was because of third party voting?
Poor performance from the DNC doesn’t mean good performance for third party.
Yeah, because voting third party has got you what so far? You’re just a pot calling a kettle black. Both you and the people you’re making fun of are equally useless.
No one mentioned it till you brought it up, claimed no one did what you said they did, and now denied you ever started this fucking Trainwreck of a conversation…
Like, it’s right fucking there that you said it. Everyone can see it…
And you’re just expecting us to ignore it and believe you now?
No one has time for that shit, if you lie about this you’ll lie about anything
A few months ago, objection(op) was arguing for third party. Now he comes in this thread and makes fun of the people defending Biden. I told him that him voting third party was just as useless as the people defending Biden. Both stances were shit. That’s what I said. Or at least that’s what I meant, maybe it didn’t come across as such. My comment was aimed at op.
Also, nice, you’re accusing me of lying by twisting my words and completely ignoring my question regarding your correlation/causation fallacy. And apparently I’m Trump in this conversation.
You’re exactly right. There’s absolutely no way to influence the Democratic party’s decisions through criticism or making it clear that they’re on track to lose. Joe Biden is who we’re stuck with and if you say you won’t vote for him, you’re completely useless. He’s the only one who can beat Trump.
Strangely, he wasn’t listed on my ballot so I just had to write him in.
Wow, this thread is full of Russian bots and Trump supporters. Biden is the picture of health, extremely spry and cognizant, personally, I thought he handled himself very well in the debates, despite the media attacking him unfairly over his stutter. Regardless, he’s the nominee, whether you like him or not, no amount of complaining will change that. He’s the lesser evil so we’re stuck with him and you just have to vote for him, unconditionally.
There’s actually a really fun followup missing where they talk about how Harris gives them hope that they didn’t have with Biden and how they can finally see victory.
But I could see how we would miss that because it was a really brief window before we actually just return to above because “now is not the time to be voicing opinions to your leaders and telling them what you want from their potential win to get your vote” and they went right back to we needed cult like following of Biden because we can all agree Harris offered nothing.
“We have to give them everything they want from us first, and then we can start pressuring[1] them!”
writing politely worded letters to ↩︎
Great satire.
You should write for the neo-liberal propaganda machine.
I learn from the best! This comment would have been unironically upvoted a year ago by all the people downvoting it now.
I dunno. I upvoted it, because it’s a really spot-on parody of the kind of comments a lot of people were making last fall. At the time, though, I was more or less in that camp. Not because I actually wanted Biden, but because it seemed like we were stuck with him as the nominee, and Trump was the only alternative.
Yeah, because voting third party has got you what so far? You’re just a pot calling a kettle black. Both you and the people you’re making fun of are equally useless.
The problem is we don’t want to solve these problems.
So they don’t get solved.
That was my thought as well. Not sure why so many are claiming otherwise.
The poor performance got the DNC to elect a nonbiased chair for the first time in over half a century…
If that doesn’t sound huge to you, it just means you don’t know enough about America’s political history.
Ripping the DNC out of the neoliberals cold dead hands was fucking huge.
What? In 2024 stein got 870k, RFK got 750k, Oliver got 650k and de la Cruz got 168k.
In 2020 jogergensen got 1.85 mil, Hawkins got 400k de la Fuente got 90k, and a few others around the same
In 2016 Johnson got 4.4 mil, stein got 1.4 mil, mcmullin got 730k.
If anything, third party voting has gone down. How can you claim that was because of third party voting? Poor performance from the DNC doesn’t mean good performance for third party.
Did we have to have the conversation about how turnout depression is what happens and not people voting 3 rd party?
You’re jumping around a lot, you claimed people voted 3rd party, and now are saying not enough votes 3rd party to cost Biden/Kamala the election?
There’s no logical consistency between your two comments, they’re openly contradicting each other…
I never said people voted third party. I said objection voted third party because that’s what he was arguing for a few months ago.
Ok trump…
No one mentioned it till you brought it up, claimed no one did what you said they did, and now denied you ever started this fucking Trainwreck of a conversation…
Like, it’s right fucking there that you said it. Everyone can see it…
And you’re just expecting us to ignore it and believe you now?
No one has time for that shit, if you lie about this you’ll lie about anything
A few months ago, objection(op) was arguing for third party. Now he comes in this thread and makes fun of the people defending Biden. I told him that him voting third party was just as useless as the people defending Biden. Both stances were shit. That’s what I said. Or at least that’s what I meant, maybe it didn’t come across as such. My comment was aimed at op.
Also, nice, you’re accusing me of lying by twisting my words and completely ignoring my question regarding your correlation/causation fallacy. And apparently I’m Trump in this conversation.
You’re exactly right. There’s absolutely no way to influence the Democratic party’s decisions through criticism or making it clear that they’re on track to lose. Joe Biden is who we’re stuck with and if you say you won’t vote for him, you’re completely useless. He’s the only one who can beat Trump.
Strangely, he wasn’t listed on my ballot so I just had to write him in.