A gun deemed too dangerous for cops, but fine for civilians
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Police are reselling their SIG Sauer P320 pistols — alleged in multiple lawsuits to fire without the trigger being pulled — to the public.
  • john_brown [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    19·
    3 days ago

    These pieces of shit are on video firing from an un-touched holster, if there hasn’t been a massive class action suit there is definitely going to be.

    First Sig fucked up the P365 trigger and got lambasted over it, all they did was warranty repair broken parts and “fix” the trigger/safety issue, then they release the 320 with Taurus auto-shoot enabled. I can’t understand why anybody would buy or carry a Sig ever again.

      • john_brown [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        2·
        2 days ago

        When it first came out the P365 was pretty revolutionary on size, capacity, and shootability, but the market’s got a lot of great options now. I’m biased towards S&W because I like their ergos, I think it’s worth trying a Shield out to see if it feels good in the hand too. Not like S&W is a great company or anything but at least they don’t make guns that go off in a holster.

  • Shaleesh [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    12·
    3 days ago

    The craziest thing about all this is how it clearly shows how few, if any consumer protections exist in the gun industry. People have spent years trying to argue with the manufacturer that they are selling an unsafe product, theres been lawsuits, but still there haven’t been any meaningful repercussions for Sig. This might be a poor comparison, but childrens toys get recalled on suspicion alone whereas these have recorded instances where they’ve shown to have a potentially lethal design flaw.

    • Nagaram [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
      2·
      2 days ago

      It just doesn’t feel possible to make any consumer safety regulation for guns that wouldn’t ultimately “infringe” as it were.

      At the end of the day it was always designed to cause massive bodily harm at a distance. Hell, Sig could just remarket the 320 as a competition pistol for like the consumer accuracy division or whatever because of the “competition read light trigger pull” and then it’s a compelling sell.

  • tocopherol [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
    14·
    3 days ago

    To be fair I trust the public with unpredictably deadly implements more than any cop, so it’s not illogical that something too dangerous for cops to handle is fine for civilians.

    • Nagaram [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
      4·
      2 days ago

      I touched fentanyl once without having an instantaneous, violent seizure about it or being tempted to OD in the bathroom on it.

      But that’s because I’m not a cop and therefore better than them.

  • glitching@lemmy.mlEnglish
    7·
    3 days ago

    didn’t keep up with the aftermath, are there any aftermarket upgrades and/or fixes for the issue?

    • Shaleesh [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      8·
      3 days ago

      Kinda? Sig has a “voluntary upgrade” program that claims to replace the striker assembly with one that they claim doesn’t have the design flaw that caused the issue…

      However it’s not clear if the upgrade fixes the root problem of the issue since the reports of misfires are still coming in.

  • Euergetes [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    71·
    3 days ago

    you have to consider that cops have pudding for brains and would shoot themselves with the best, safest weapons ever designed, civilians will have much lower accident rates even with guns that have reliability problems like these.

  • TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.comEnglish
    3·
    3 days ago

    i’m doing the best i can to imagine a cartoon where some sharks are selling bangsticks to other sharks for protection