I hear a lot about frustrating, unskippable tutorials. What games do a good job at teaching you what you need to know?

  • caut_R@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    11
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    5 days ago

    Dark Souls since it doesn‘t stop you in your tracks much. I dislike tutorials that stop you and make you read walls of text or force you to input/click exactly what it wants you to.

    • unit327@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      5 days ago

      Dark Souls has a good tutorial because it lets you skip it? That’s your bar for a good tutorial?

      Souls games are terrible at even explaining what the buttons do. Every blind lets play I’ve seen it is like 30 minutes before the player even discovers they have estus or what it is for.

      • caut_R@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        5 days ago

        Yes, I prefer a game that lets me figure things out on my own through gameplay instead of popups. You are (arguably) forced to engage with the game‘s mechanics to beat the level, it has parries, environmental hazards, ambushes all in it without huge punishment in case of failure. I take the aha moment of using estus over „press square to heal.“ I‘m aware that others might need more guidance, but I didn’t and hence it‘s a great tutorial for me.

        I wouldn‘t mind replaying the tutorial even now after having done it dozens of times already. It doesn‘t feel like one, I’m already playing the game and having fun, immersed in its world. So my bar is: The best tutorials don‘t feel like tutorials at all.

    • Goodeye8@piefed.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      5 days ago

      I was coming here to mention Dark Souls. It’s an excellent example of how to make a tutorial not feel like a tutorial. Either you take the time to understand what the game is telling you or not, up to you. Don’t care about going through the entire tutorial area? Just beat the boss and start the real adventure.