I would love to live somewhere like China, Vietnam or Cuba having spent some time in and experienced a bit of all three. Lovely countries with lovely people. That being said I feel like it’s my duty to hash it out in my home country of Canada. Unless stuff really goes to shit and I have to escape on asylum or something for my political views I want to do my best to try and contribute to improve things in my community.
For much of my life I’ve dreamed of moving away to almost anywhere else from the frozen backwater I call home but as I’ve gotten older I’m more invested in trying to get stuck in there and be involved in shit and contributing to positive change.
You just voiced all of my thoughts. I’m also Canadian and even though I’ve thought of leaving many times I know I can’t, not only because moving is expensive but I also believe it is my duty to stay.
Until, like you said, I am forced to leave; whether that’s due to war or having my citizenship revoked and being deported I will remain and do my best to improve the lives of the people here.
Also, the snow doesn’t bother me as much as others, and I honestly can’t imagine winter without it.
Yes. Three problems:
- Language barrier for 4/5 of them
- One I speak the language of, but the climate is unbearable to me.
- As developing countries that AES states are, those that have the same profession as me have overall worse living standards than in my part of the world.
I am going to move anyway, but not to a socialist country (for now).
Where are you moving?
Scandinavia, most likely Sweden.
Edit: lmao at the downvote
Of course. Cuba would be great, my only issue is that I’m not too fond of high temperatures like in the Caribbean. But that will be a problem in the future anyway.
The only thing keeping me in the west are my elderly parents who don’t want to move anywhere. Otherwise, I would be living in China right now. I absolutely do want to make the move at some point though, and have been learning Mandarin in the meantime.
I plan to fight for revolution in the US until it is too dangerous and the revolution turns out to not likely succeed. I am already working towards becoming a candidate member with PSL. Because I want to be a computer hardware engineer working in the semiconductor industry, China may be my best option. This is why I am going back to school next year to get my bachelor’s–so I have a viable Plan B just in case.
I’d probably only do it for survival reasons or temporarily for learning. I’ve considered moving a lot in my life (specially fooled by brain drain Western propaganda), but the whole process is too costly and risky, and doesn’t help make my country a better place.
If I get the conditions to afford moving elsewhere, I would also likely have the conditions to live a comfortable life or try to make a change here.
But it’s always good to learn some Chinese and Spanish as backup ;)
Every day I daydream about moving to China. There are too many barriers to making that dream a reality though. I wouldn’t want to make my SO feel isolated and illiterate. If only there was a socialist country that primarily spoke English.
To echo some Canucks below, I would probably realistically not leave unless it was all-but guaranteed fruitless death to not, in which case it’d be a toss up between Mexico and Cuba. I have grown attached to the USA, all my friends and family are here, and I feel an overwhelming sense of duty to foment revolution here. I would love to visit and experience AES countries, though, and I am encouraging my friend to move to China because his genius lies in highly developed fields, his contribution to humanity would be best actualized there.
I have spent some time in a couple of them, and a possible future career option is actually a transfer to China. It is part of the reason I took the job I have now. I have been studying chinese specifically in case that pans out.
I am sure there would be considerable adjustments, I have lived most of my life in Japan at this point, but I would definitely welcome the opportunity.
May I ask what do you do for a living?
I work in hospitality IT, probably not a field I would generally recommend to most people normally but the head regional offices for Asia are located in China.
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May I pm you and talk shop with moving to China?
Of course, feel free
Part of me still wants to stay and fight in the U.S., but more and more I believe that its the equivalent of trying to stop a tsunami with a riot shield. And I feel incredibly guilty for feeling this way, but I am hoping/planning to permanently move to China one day.
Every single day in the U.S. is like gambling with your life. I don’t want to suffer and die in this fascist shithole, and I know that I can still help people no matter where I go. But I feel that I owe it to my family and my SO to get us to a better and safer place.
incredibly guilty for feeling this way
If it makes you slightly less guilty, the US is actively suppressing any opposition (see the Black Panther Party).
I know that, but I always believe in standing up and fighting.
No. Our mission as Marxism-Leninist is to do the revolution in ours countries. Go to live to a socialist country is a bad option to do that.
Our mission as Marxists-Leninists is to aid the worldwide expansion of communism and to defend the interests of the working class. There’s nothing written forbidding you from crossing borders.
If I move to one socialist state I cannot fight for my class. Your vission is like, I go to a site that have my ideologic and this is all.
That’s absurd and nonsensical, unless you find that “fighting for your class” is a synonym with “directly fighting against the bourgeoisie that oppresses you”… In which case it’s only absurd. The fight for your class does not end the moment you’ve defeated your own national bourgeoisie.
Workers who participate in the growth and improvement of the quality of life in socialist states do fight for the working class. Otherwise we could claim that workers in the Soviet Union, China, Cuba and so on did not contribute for the wellbeing of the proletariat, which is obviously wrong. Fighting for your class does not necessarily have to involve picking up a banner nor a rifle there where the bourgeoisie rules.
Im agree with you. But in too many case people go to live to socialist state and didnt fight any more. Obviously all the workes o Soviet Union is an example for all the working class in the word. We have to take that example and continuos her example in our territory for the liberation of the all class.
Even then, being somewhere else does not mean you cannot fight for the cause of the proletariat back in your home country. Lenin spent a while living in Switzerland and Finland, all while still working on what would finally amount to the October Revolution.
I have no hope for the US, I would leave in less than a minute if given the opportunity, but moving out of the US is expensive, you need to pay a heavy fine just to denounce your citizenship. And that’s like not even step one of moving.
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That makes things just a bit easier then, if things go right, hopefully I’ll be able to leave this shithole in 10-15 yrs
I have tried during covid. I was told you have to be a Chinese national to apply.
Not necessarily, from what I understand having a very important job or education is a gateway.
No, that’s what I was specifically told by the recruiter. I was perfectly qualified for the job, even a bit over-qualified.
Yes I got to china through my uni.
Yes
Which one?
Cuba
Why that one particularly?
Bc it’s easier to learn Spanish than Mandarin
Cuban Spanish is its own beast, I think it’s like speaking California-American English to a person with a thick Scottish accent, you kinda have to slow down a bit until you get used to it. Source: am a Mexican native Spanish speaker who’s traveled to Cuba.
California-American English
I don’t know what that sounds like bc I am from Denmark
Ah, word. It’s what most US-ians in movies sound like because of hollywood and therefore it’s mostly what folks consider “American English”. It’s not the default though, because there’s also western/texas/deep south english which is your typical cowboy to hillbilly range of accents seen in wild west movies, or when coastal libs do that annoying thing here equating all southerners to inbred reactionaries. The Midwestern accent is a bit on the stereotypical Canadian side, at least to me, and the New York/Boston/New England accent is also sharply distinct. AAVE (African American Vernacular) can also differ among regions and is different from how non-Black US-ians talk in many cases.
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I’m curious, doing so would almost certainly mean loosing many luxuries that Americans are used to (easy access to internet for one) Are people really willing to abandon most of it?
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Internet has come a long way in Cuba in recent years. The biggest obstacle has traditionally been (shocker) the US embargo making undersea cable construction difficult.
Satellite remains an [expensive] option and I know they just managed to finish a few undersea cable projects regardless. I think they are around 60% of cubans having readily accessible internet now? I expect that will only continue to improve.
In all honesty, a break from the internet wouldn’t hurt mots of us. While I wouldn’t move there longterm probably, I didn’t really miss it while I was in the DPRK.
