the front page is now like half articles on this currently, so it’s probably time for a megathread because none of us want to keep track of 12 threads on this subject and all the resulting comments. only major subsequent developments (for example, boots on the ground; pronunciations by governments; that sort of stuff) will get their own thread. otherwise please post stuff in here for the time being. any threads not meeting this criteria will be locked and removed. thank you in advance for your cooperation.

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      Good thing no one I’ve seen is arguing that Hamas is good.

      And also a good thing that Palestinians != Hamas.

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        I have heard rumblings of people who believe that Hamas did not even attack and this was a false flag.

        Prob propaganda but it def makes you think. I mean Israel did know about the attack ahead of time supposedly. How did Hamas get through the iron dome? Did anyone see where they went after? How did that girl get from the back of a Hamas truck to a hospital? Why haven’t I seen many photos videos from the ground?

        This bad faith “evidence” just fuels the conspiracy.

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          No one is seriously questioning the authenticity of this attack, though I would not be surprised if Bibi knew of it (since, you know, they were literally told about it beforehand) and allowed it to happen to both avoid his legal troubles and to give his ultranationalist party and military a pretense for driving out or killing Palestinians.

          Pearl Harbor and 9/11 weren’t fake either, and both were used to excuse atrocities too.

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            I just wanna chime in and say I don’t believe it either.

            I bring it up because it’s the only reason that I could think of that someone is out here posting “proof” of the orders.

            At some point I’m sure we’ll see a blurred video of murder and then someone pointing at the people on the screen and being like “we know that guy, that’s Hamas s Samah, he lives at 123 Westy B. He is a Hamas and this is him murdering. Here’s the body of the victim later at the morgue.”

            Thats the kind of evidence I “want” (I don’t want a video of murder but like, identifying people in the video and find out who they are and like… hard evidence)

            But the “evidence” I was responding to is something I could forge from half a world away

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      It can’t be fake because they literally did it (babies, children, women and elderlies)

      This is literally a circular argument.