• 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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      I think there’s a legal concept, that if you fail to provide information in the Discovery process, it must be assumed that said information is incriminating.

      so this,

      every redacted perpetrator is Trump, until proven otherwise

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    There is one challenge here, emails are really easily spoofable. They should release all the header information of these emails, so that they could be verified. FBI probably have them, but they won’t release those because they would show that Don is a pedo.

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      Well, the only one you have to spoof to incriminate is already redacted, so there’s not really a ‘spoof’ concern to worry about unless that is unredacted.

      Receiving such an email doesn’t have to be a spoof. See typical spam folder of anyone for all sorts of crazy implications about the recipient.

      However, the date is more reliable and back in 2014, nearly no one would be motivated to fake that sort of email toward Epstein. That was before his whole situation was popularly known. The people aware of it were largely in on it that early on.

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        Epstein was first arrested 2006 and convicted on 2008, anyone association with him after that KNEW him being a sex offender.

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          The key word being those that knew him. He wasn’t famous for things so strangers wouldn’t have done that, and I think if this were a fake email, then sending it to a high profile person would be more of a stranger activity than an associate.

          I don’t think an Epstein associate would send a fake email like that, as it would be more likely to blow back on them than implicate Epstein any further than he was already implicated.

          So yeah, this email seems a credible thing and consistent with Epstein. Also I would not suspect a fake header if we knew the sender, so I’d think the sender could be presumed not to be a victim of spoofed headers too.

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            He wasn’t famous for things so strangers wouldn’t have done that

            He was famous for throwing raunchy sex parties with underaged European models.

            That was his entire roll in his social network.

            It’s like showing up in the black book of the DC Madam Deborah Jeane Palfrey and saying “I didn’t know she was a pimp”. That’s literally the only reason you would associate with the person.

            Norm fucking Finklestein responds to Epstein on his perversion to his face, ffs.

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              I’m not saying that his activities were completely unknown, just that some internet rando wouldn’t even recognize his name back then. I think that a faked email could only be a likely scenario if we were talking about after everyone knew who he was and what he did.

              So the ‘oh watch out, that 2014 Epstein email might have been faked/forged’ is a relatively small likelihood to bother assuming, and totally beside the point since they censored the ‘from’ in that email and the message didn’t indicate previously unknown behavior on Epstein’s part.

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    That would cause them to face legal consequences and that would make them a victim of the legal system and the WOKE cancel culture! And they can’t reveal the identity of the victim!

    /s

    Kill me please.

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      I’m sure a lot of other people implicated in the files would love for that to happen. Let’s take down ALL of them.

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        If we keep assuming it is Trump the hope is they will at least reveal some names to debunk this assumption. Otherwise yeah, it is a whole cesspit of billionaires, politicians and unfortunately artists, scientists, directors, actors etc…

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      That’s what I do, I assume its either Donald or one of his cabinet members or close friends. Either way, he’s a chomo or protecting chomos, and both are about the worst you can be.

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        Or get this, it could be literally anyone including Democrats or other billionaires. This is t an exclusively Republican problem

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          Do you really think trump’s DOJ is going to censor a democrat’s name? FFS, they tried to pin Mamdani to Epstein because his mom attended one movie premier with Epstein.

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    Funny how Apple won’t allow movies to show villains using their products, but will happily add “sent from my iPhone” to pedo mail.

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      That’s actually a marketing tactic to promote their devices. Actually the scummiesy tactic ever because it takes no effort but caused a lot of anti consumerist practices since this was the first time consumers were pushed with enshittification.

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        Happening a long time before Apple did this. RIM were doing it before and many freemail providers.

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    We always knew these people had no morals but seeing the way the super rich nonces type makes me want to take up arms.

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    Me: “I need to use a zero-access encrypted email accessible through Tor so the google doesn’t know I just bought a new dragon ball coffee cup”

    The elites:

    "from: irapechildren@gmail.com To: everybody Yooooo, raping little children is soooooo coooooool

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    Probably from one of the 25 “protected persons” that were mentioned elsewhere. Whyever they are being “protected”.

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    It should be made known to the administration, that any time a redaction like this occurs, the public should and does imagine the sender to be Donald Trumpedo.

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    Funny how everyone made plans on what day to head to the island yet none of them ever went. None have been on the plane and none have been to the island? lol Then they all said he’s a sick degenerate, they are disgusted, and they cut off all ties. They were sorry for their poor judgement and/or weren’t aware of his past but they feel for the woman and children that were hurt on those occasions that they weren’t there. lol They all said that… they must have the same lawyer.

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    The email etiquette of these people is appalling. It’s not an IM chat client. Write proper emails you freaks.

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    Still trying to wrap my head around how at that time and in that context and when so many technology CEOs and celebrity/politically active people seem involved, they were all sending these plain text emails, didn’t bother the least to try to make communication more secure and private

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      Rich people unfortunately don’t need to fear being prosecuted. They know very well that they are above the law.

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        Ummm, you realize that all of this came about because a rich guy went to jail, right?

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          Epstein wasn’t a ‘real’ rich guy, he was an uplifted peasant fall guy. Dude was a fucking teacher until someone made him the designated head of the worldwide child trafficking ring.

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            LOL you say that like any billionaires are “self made”. He was a billionaire who was closely connected to to elite people around the world. That’s the only reason this is such a scandal.

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              Most billionaires either inherit obscene wealth or luck into an insane ROI by accident (or both, like Elon Musk)

              What I’m saying is Jeffrey Epstein was made a billionaire by other billionaires specifically to be the guy who takes the fall if the shit hits the fan.

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      I mean none of them will face any real consequences from this because the American public are too lazy and stupid to make them, so why wouldn’t they?

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      Assuming it was the state-backed honeypot it seems to be, plus the fact that the rich don’t face consequences unless they turn on their own kind, that explains most of the wide-reaching clientele and the lack of concern for hiding it.