• TachyonTele@piefed.social
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      Enlightenment was huge. And it gave us our current scientific methods, got rid of alchemy finally, and of course pushed for saner government. This is from wiki:

      Characterized by an emphasis on reason, empirical evidence, and the scientific method, the Enlightenment promoted ideals of individual liberty, religious tolerance, progress, and natural rights . Its thinkers advocated for constitutional government, the separation of church and state , and the application of rational principles to social and political reform.[

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      Yes, but it would be a stretch to say that “all” were into it. All educated people, perhaps. I doubt a random peasant knew much about it.

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        If you’re looking for something that every single person understands and participates in, you’ll be looking for a long long time.

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        Even the Industrial and Information Ages only took place in developed nations.

        It’s kinda hard to say that “everyone” is behind a development when a significant portion of humanity still cooks over an open fire and doesn’t have indoor plumbing.

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          The Industrial Age defined what a developed nation is. To say that it only took place in developed nations is a tautology.

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            The idea of “developed nations” was only started as a way to target new markets for our industrial companies. I.e. growth had slowed to a point that they needed more places to sell our goods to, to make line go up.

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            And yet, you haven’t addressed the larger point. How can you say “everyone” is taking part in a new societal age if a large percentage of humanity is still agrarian and living nomadically?

            It’s utterly nonsensical.

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              I wasn’t trying to “address the larger point,” and I didn’t say the thing you’re demanding I defend. I was only making the point that developed nations are considered “developed” because they participated in the Industrial Revolution.

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    I don’t think you’ll ever find a scientific consensus which “about all” are in agreement with, and especially so when you look deep into history.

    Take for example the idea of the earth being a floating ball rather than a flat plane. You’ll often find people saying that the ancient Greeks knew the world was round often with an implication that everyone used to accept this, it’s only in recent times that the flat earth idea has become popular.

    But the reality is that even after Herodotus had done his experiment showing shadows were cast at different angles in different places at the same moment, there was still a large contingent in the scientific community that held on to the idea of a flat earth.

    There was never really even a singular scientific community before the modern age. Just think how slow and difficult it used to be to share ideas and knowledge around the world.

    Then of course there were all the varied religions of the world, where followers will not tolerate interpretations of the world that conflict with their particular set of myths.

    The vast majority of normal people - living in small villages and so on - would never have heard of such experiments and if asked, would almost certainly say the world was flat and how stupid you are for even asking.

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    I’d argue that it’s a culture-specific thing:

    Among Empiricism Science rules.

    but among the academic-class-system, it is status which rules.

    & among authority-based-medicine ( see here for evidence, & they’re being MUCH more polite about it than I, gaslit by doctors all my life: dad was a medical-researcher & doctor: he taught me to think … but he still insisted that authority-based-medicine was evidence-based-medicine, because that was his identity ) … it is evidence-based-medicine IDENTITY and authority which rules: validity is exclusive to doctors.


    So, pick any time in history, including now, when immense science is being done, & you’ll find that those born into science-culture live science’s paradigm, but those born into other assumption-rivers/religions’ way, are embodying their cultures/paradigms.

    There has never been any time, that we know-of, where there weren’t competing paradigms which owned more of the population.

    Not for a continental-region, not for the whole-planet.

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    Its hard to say if there was ever an modern “age” of science, so much as it is a major component of all our most recent ages for the last couple of centuries.

    I’d find it hard not to argue that the scientific method was pivotal to the industrial revolution, the electric age, the atomic age, and the informational age we’re in now (although some would argue we’re in the enshitification age).