• DaBabyAteMaDingo@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Funny how I still haven’t gotten a good example of a communist government. It’s almost as if you guys have no idea what you’re talking about 🤔

    All I’m asking is for literally one example. Just one. Of a current, successful communist government. I’ll wait 🤣😂

    • Val@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      You could say the same for democratic governments before French revolution.

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        1 year ago

        Funny, I can point to at least 50 Democratic and capitalist countries that run just fine and are in the top 10 best countries to live in on the earth. But you can’t name just one viable country run by a communist government?

        Funny how that works 😂🤔

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          1 year ago

          I said before the French revolution.

          Also I doubt they are going to be “the best” after climate change (which is caused by those countries) causes them to collapse.

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            1 year ago

            Why is it so hard to name one successful, current communist country?

            Forget about your French revolution nonsense 😂

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              1 year ago

              Because human progress is about making things that do not exist. Saying that something doesn’t exist currently does not mean it cannot exist.

              Before the french revolution there were no democratic countries. back then you could say “Name one democratic country. Oh you can’t? Guess democracy doesn’t work.” and it would be just as valid as your claim now.

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                1 year ago

                Fair point but communism hasn’t been effectively implemented because it’s being purposely stifled, it’s because it’s a crap system.

                I guess if you take the best aspects of communism and ignore the history of how shitty it is then maybe you can theoretically imagine a successful version of it. But I don’t need to hypothesize such a scenario. There’s plenty of data and historical facts that completely prove my point

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                  1 year ago

                  Humanity has progressed a lot in even the last 20 years. Using historical facts to prove something doesn’t work is not effective under these circumstances.

                  Also communism (in the classical sense) doesn’t really have a practical history, as no country on the planet has purposefully reached it.

                  The soviet union or china were never communist. They were both horrific state capitalist dictatorships.

                  And capitalism is also crap. For example look at the impending climate catastrophe.

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                    1 year ago

                    I’ll never say capitalism is perfect but it’s a system that works - and at its best, it works remarkably well. I hear this argument a lot that communism hasn’t implemented the way it should be. Has there ever been a government that came close to what you would consider “almost good enough” communism?