I’m not american so I know fairly little about Bernie, but from my point of view, he seems to be a great person and candidate. Why is he so “despised” amongst democrat voters? I’ve seen so much shittalk about him, people call his supporters Bernie bros, meanwhile I’m pretty sure he’s the best candidate the democrats could have.
I’m also not American, but understanding is thus:
Every American over the age of 45 has had it drilled that there is no difference between socialism and communism, and that it’s a failed system which the US spent 50 years combatting, almost leading to nuclear war several times, whereas capitalism is the only system that allows for any person to have freedom.
The two political parties have taken advantage of this fact to offer the choice of center right and far right policy at the cost of social programs.
Now you have someone like Bernie, who outwardly uses the term socialist, and is pushing to get people to understand that having center-left policy is a good thing, but he’s fighting 50 years of anti-USSR propaganda.
I think there are some motivated by anti-Communist propaganda, but a lot more were suckered in by a theory of politics where everything was mostly correct and Democrats just need to keep up the slow and steady progress to optimize away the few minor problems that exist. All the systemic things that aren’t good are just laws of nature, not the result of policy choices that could just be changed. Nevermind that other countries have done so or how unbelievably wealthy we are as a nation.
The only thing that makes bad policy happen is Republicans being in power, so when the Democratic party’s master plan in disrupted, that’s bad. They’re the adults in the room and experts on policy and winning elections after all. And Bernie did that in 2016. If we’d all just checked out, ignored all the steadily worsening problems in the status quo, and followed orders we’d all be happy at brunch.
Which with Trump being SO bad and the margins being so close, that might have been true (along with a host of other potential reasons the party downplays because they’re their fault). But it’d just be a band-aid like Biden was. The problem is it’s not Trump that’s the singular threat of fascism. He’s kicked it into high gear, but the alternate timeline brunch-goers would still have children living at home because they can’t afford housing, be one step away from medical bankruptcy, and feel constantly in danger of losing their livelihood.
Trump didn’t do any of that, but pressure like that makes people look for outsiders to blame and leaders willing to radically change the system. If it wasn’t him it’d be Tucker Carlson or someone else. And until that happened we’d keep trading back and forth with Republicans because the status quo always feels bad even while we’re convinced it cannot change.
It’s less that left change is communist and communism must be avoided at all cost, it’s that the Democratic party is already doing the best possible and anything else is dangerous and harmful. And they’ll point at Trump as proof. Nevermind that his change is bad because he wants bad things, the problem is all change.
You understand wrong.
He was the best candidate our country could have, twice, and both times snubbed by the Party. Many voters love Bernie, but he threatens the status quo of corporate rule.
no he doesn’t, his only function is to keep the status quo by keeping the sheep not running away to genuine opposition parties by creating the illusion there can be some leftism in that wing of the uniparty.
Americans are dumb as shit.
Anyone who looks at how this fraud operates knows that.
Not to mention his mask off moment trying to do dammage control for the shitraeli genociders.
He’s a scumbag.
people call his supporters Bernie bros, meanwhile I’m pretty sure he’s the best candidate the democrats could have.
Correction: corporations, media, shills, and AI call his supporters Bernie bros.
When you hear something dismissive about somebody or something, always consider the source, and you’ll find the source is usually either anonymous horseshit or big money backed, and the secret is, one is usually a form of the other.
Real left-wing people also say that about this despicable ‘israel has the right to defend itself’ fraud.
Centrist democrats fight against progressives instead of fighting fascism.
Remember, half of America voted for a corrupt fascist pedophile, TWICE. And about 40% STILL support him. Does it sound like they are smart people that understand what’s good for them?
American politics are so very far to the right that he is easily labeled and extremist by both parties.
We are proper fucked over here.
I think the voters would support him if they knew his actual policies but because socialism is still largely a taboo in America most voters are turned away simply because “he’s a socialist”. So it’s not the voters who despise him at much as it’s the party itself that despises him, because he is the opposition to the upper echelons of the party.
The current events with Hasan Piker make it pretty clear that the democratic party will go after their “allies” if they refuse to bend the knee to the “business as usual” politics of the party. So i absolutely believe the party itself has ran interference against Sanders to make sure people wouldn’t listen to him, because his politics are also antithetical to the “business as usual” politics.
I know fairly little about Bernie,
Maybe then stop glazing him.
They call him Bernie the sheepdog for a reason.I’m not glazing him, I just never heard any of his speeches or interviews where he said anything ridiculous or bad. So instead of attacking me for not knowing about someone, maybe just explain to me why you (apparently) don’t like him. If you don’t do that, your entire comment is senseless.
from my point of view he seems to be a great person and candidate
You said that, maybe not the best decision when you ‘not know about someone’. Also your words.
He is the tool of that awful party to keep voters from running to a genuine left party/candidate.
That’s why they call him the sheepdog.
Full of empty slogans about the oligarchy, tax the rich, etc…
But he does nothing, on the contrary.
He only proposes worthwhile bills when he’s absolutely sure they will not pass. (which is the desired result)
Of course he will make a big spectacle about it and play the socialist.
Usually after the elections.
When it’s close to voting he always endorses whatever ghoul the corporate Dems want.
He supports US imperialism and votes for about every illegal war they constantly start.
Even defends drone bombing.
Attacks and rants every government from countries the US doesn’t like. Especially the real socialist ones.
Believes in strong border and anti-immigration policies.
Was against defunding the police after the George Floyd murder. Even wanted to give them more money.
Shills for the genocider state.
Wasn’t against moving their caital to Jerusalem, and against a cease-fire.
He refused to use the word ‘genocide’ for more than a year.
And got very angry when asked why he wouldn’t do it.
He invariably talks about ‘the Netanyahu government’ when he (mildly) criticizes the genocider state.
This is of course his very sneaky tactic of putting all blame on this one guy, who eventually will have to go and creates the illusion that this genocider country will return to becoming a perfect model democracy.
While factually at no time in history they were anything but land thieves and murderers.
In any discussion on Palestine every other sentence is ‘israel has the right to defend itself!’ or Hamas bad!
I could go on.
While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change.
Which actions american did to make change?
Edgy tweets, changing their avatar, complain online and interpretative dance.
Having a Sunday walk at the useless corporate No Kings ‘protests’ urging them to vote harder next time.
Where they can vent their little frustrations and think they did something.How could all this not have worked?
A full third literally stayed home and did nothing, so, very little.
“making a change is when you vote for the status quo”
Change is voting for different type of politicians which Americans aren’t doing
Change wasn’t on the ballot. People who would have voted for change stayed home.
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