Nearly 1.5 million migrants on benefits Government figures reveal almost one in six Universal Credit claimants is not a British citizen

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    1. Which benefits? Are they including child support, which everyone with a child gets?
    2. 1.5 million is a scary number. How does the percentage compare to non-immigrant numbers?
    3. The Telegraph is a right wing rag.
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      1.5 million is a scary number. How does the percentage compare to non-immigrant numbers?

      Government figures reveal almost one in six Universal Credit claimants is not a British citizen

      16.6% of all claimants

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        “not a British citizen” sounds like it includes people with indefinite leave to remain/any level of settled status. Meaning people who have lived here a long time, and were not here illegally at any point. I personally don’t care about the last point, and I think we should support refugees too, but that’s where the negative connotations will come from. But regardless: it sounds like this will include people who could be citizens (perhaps if it didn’t cost 1.7k).

        So really, does this say anything?

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        OK, I’ll ask again. How does this percentage compare to non-immigrants, and what benefits are they including? Actually, don’t bother - I looked it up and the number for UK citizens is 23%. So immigrants are paying proportionally more into the tax system than UK residents. We should have more of these hard working people.

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          We should have more of these hard working people.

          Immigrants who work yes definitely, those who don’t no thanks

          The average immigrant is younger and there should be lower claimants, significantly lower, the benefits they bring should be overwhelming, otherwise what is the point

          Labour is proposing to double the time before migrants are entitled to claim ILR from five to 10 years and to make it conditional on earning a wage, speaking English to a high standard and contributing to society.

          Sounds fair to me?

          If you want to support them you are free to donate your wages to the 1.5 million, I’m sure you’re got lots to spare

          I looked it up and the number for UK citizens is 23%

          23% of all UK citizens are on universal credit? Where did you get that number from?

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            https://uk.news.yahoo.com/welfare-numbers-facts-behind-britain-175034417.html

            It’s the % of working age people, so anyone over 67 isn’t included in the UK figures, unlike the immigrant figures, so I’m not sure how your second point makes any sense. Pensions are the largest outgoings in welfare costs, so we really do need these eager young immigrants to inject money into the system because UK citizens are absolutely draining it dry.

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              Britain’s welfare bill has ballooned, with 23 per cent of the working-age population now in receipt of some form of benefits, figures analysed by The Independent reveal.

              That would include the immigrants as well ?

              You blocked me so I guess we’ll never know!

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    Taxpayers who get up early and work hard all day should not be funding benefits for immigrants.

    Wow, immigrants don’t pay taxes in the UK? That’s weird.

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          That’s like saying pensioners pay taxes, sure, but they are currently drowning the French government while taking out more money than they contribute

          Why should hard working regular British people subsidise something they don’t want and don’t need?

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            Because that’s the nature of insurance. You pay into it when you can and draw from it when you need to. It’s also an indication of a civilised society when it looks after the less fortunate.

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              It’s also an indication of a civilised society when it looks after the less fortunate.

              Yes when it has the capacity to do so, if the less fortunate outnumber the more fortunate eventually the society crumbles and you end up with a whole country full of less fortunates

              Analysis by the Centre for Social Justice (CSJ) suggests the increase in welfare spending this year alone is equivalent to 15 advanced Royal Navy frigates, 220 fighter jets, or 250,000 soldiers’ salaries, more than three times the size of the regular British Army.

              New figures show the cost of benefits and pensions will climb to around £333 billion this year, an increase larger than the annual budgets of several government departments combined.

              https://www.centreforsocialjustice.org.uk/newsroom/18bn-welfare-surge

              Golly, is the UK ok?

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        As a taxpayer, British people who won’t (I have no problem with people who legit cannot work) work piss me off more. Fucking parasites, I deal with them at work.