The Supreme Court ruled Thursday against a broad federal ban on gun ownership by marijuana users, the latest in a line of firearm cases from a court that has expanded gun rights.

The justices decided unanimously in favor of Ali Danial Hemani, a Texas man who argued that a law barring guns from anyone who uses illegal drugs violates the Second Amendment.

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    Any idiot can have a gun. Any drunk can have a gun. Any thug can have a gun. Why would marijuana users be discriminated against?

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    If, not saying we should, but if we were going to restrict gun rights for substance use it should be for alcohol. A drunk person with a gun is orders of magnitude more dangerous then a high person.

    Personally I’d probably be safer with a gun if I were stoned because I’d just stay the fuck away from it because it would make me anxious.

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        Sure, but that’s irrelevant to the discussion here. The question isn’t whether it’s legal to use a gun while under the influence of either substance. The question is whether being a user of either substance should disqualify you from owning a firearm.

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        You’re going to argue against an armed citizenry with a stright face. With everything that is going on? No thanks.

        I’d love to see better mental health for kids, because by the time they even considered using a gun we’ve already failed them

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          what does that even mean, “with everything that is going on”?

          because it doesn’t seem to be doing much good

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            The rise of fascism. And we’re still in the early phases. They’ll go after private gun ownership when people start starving.

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        That infringes MY right not to have some dumb fucking redneck packing heat around me.

        You have no such right and you never did.

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        You’re exactly the type of person that shouldn’t have a gun, I trust that redneck more than your unhinged dumbass.

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        A hammer can be a tool of death, really anything can be. And please point us to the law that states you have the right to not be around armed citizens.

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          Many towns, particularly towns in the Old West, operated like this.

          https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/gun-control-old-west-180968013/

          Same thing with many cities in early modern Europe. In many places it’s been common upon entering a town or settlement that you have to check your weapons in at some location, like a sheriff’s office. Check your weapons in when you go into town, get them back when you leave.

          The first law passed in Dodge City, Kansas was one prohibiting the carrying of guns inside city limits. So, I suppose that’s the law I would point to!

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          🏆You have won the idiot of the internet today. 🏆

          Explain to the class how one person with a hammer is the same as one person with a gun. Can the person with hammer take down 30 people in a crowded room in seconds? I can list a dozen useful applications for a hammer, as far as I can tell tell a gun has one function.

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              wow this guy used his big brain power to tell us a nail gun is similar to a gun. Technically speaking of course.

              Sir, last I checked no one was against using gunpowder as a tool. They are against weaponry that can elimate mass quantities of life in mere seconds.

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            Lol I’m not sure how you extracted that I was saying the two are the same. All I was saying that anything can be used as an instrument of death if someone is so motivated, but by all means, continue your crusade.

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        I love freedom, I think firing guns is fun, but I don’t own them and am blown away by the downvotes you got. Has lemmy just become gun toting libertarians like reddit?

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          “Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary”

          -Notable libertarian Karl Marx

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          I’m pretty sure it’s mostly his tone of voice and presumptuous attitude. But all that aside, given how many people in this country have said they want to see me and mine dead lately, I will be hanging on to my firearms, thank you very much, and if that makes me a ‘gun-toting readneck’ then so be it.

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        Your rights don’t extend over the bodies of others, so you don’t have the right to imagine that nobody is armed.

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            Do they? As far as I know that is a lot easier said than done. You’d need a passport and a visa to allow entry to the other country, and the whole residence thing is another big hurdle. Not to mention the monetary requirement that expatriating involves.

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            You do realized that there are only about 20 countries worldwide that firearms are outright banned, right? The rest, unlike the US and select African/ME countries, implement and actually enforce strict ownership and carrying laws. So while you can reasonably expect that people aren’t publicly carrying in, say, Europe, they very well can have a healthily stocked safe at home.

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              So, in other words, in most places worldwide, random strangers aren’t like strapped. It’s almost like your comment was pointless

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                Depends on the country and also the region within the country. Most Schengen area countries except Switzerland don’t allow it except under very specific circumstances, but elsewhere in the world it can vary wildly.

                I get what y’all are trying to get after, guns bad USA is a violent cesspool etc, but if you actually read up on the topic, the US isn’t some isolated bastion of guns. Yes we have more gun violence than many countries, but I’d argue its more endemic with our tossed society and culture than with the weapons themselves.

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      Trump, California, and a gun violence advocacy group all supported this and even the SC lined up. This is a winning platform no one has the balls to run on. We can make the laws around both actually make sense and the people seem very receptive to it. If dems want to actually bring right learners into their big tent being less stupid about gun legislation is the eternal number one issue for a lot of people who may share few if any other opinions with the conservatives.

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      A rare sight these days

      I think almost 50% of decisions were unanimous in their last term.

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    I mean I feel it is always a guarantee that you drop the “Don’t tread on my 2nd Amendment” you be painted as a saint. ESPECIALLY in Texas.

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      This was the supreme court overruling Texas.

      They hate rown people smoking more than they live their guns, remember that.

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        This was the supreme court overruling Texas.

        No, this was SCOTUS overruling the Federal Government. As far as I can tell his charges were Federal and he was never prosecuted by Texas itself.

        They hate rown people smoking more than they live their guns, remember that.

        You should remember to check the details and use spell check.

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      I’m kinda surprised nobody has tried to use trespass laws to force the issue.