I am halfway through the Dry July and would like to celebrate but at a loss. I have the following ingredients, and define non alcoholic as non intoxicating not completely alcohol free, so splash of something ok.

N/A liqueurs:

Pathfinder

Seedlip Spice

Other:

Coffee

Coconut water, coconut cream

Tepache de piña

Enough pineapple to make a little pineapple juice

Strawberries

Tonic water

Yuzu lime tonic water

Ginger, lemon, lime, bitters

A pretty full bar, and a small amount of good red wine.

Considering just Pathfinder in tonic, that ends up like Chinola soda. But with all this I just feel like it could be more interesting!

  • RBWells@lemmy.worldOPM
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    3 days ago

    I ended up with grapefruit juice, light tonic water, spoonful of Campari, and a tajin rim. Fantastic.

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    4 days ago

    My mocktail approach is essentially all daiquiri format: 2 parts something with body or heat to 1 part acid to ~1\2 part sweetener.

    The majority is often tea, or something with tannins. Ginger is really good since it has a “burn” like alcohol. Milk punches also work well for body.

    I like acidifying various juices with citric and malic acid. Personally, I like to target lime acidity over lemon because I think malic acid has the sensation of more body.

    Recently, I did 2 parts gunpowder tea to 1 part acid adjusted orange juice to .75 parts agave syrup.

    I’ve never used any purpose made liquor alternatives.

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      4 days ago

      This sounds very good. I forgot about the cold brew-fresh oj-fizzy water combo, I like that. Have moka pot coffee, close to espresso.

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        4 days ago

        Yep, moka will do the job! It’s probably my most common drink I go to when I want something fun and refreshing without the alcohol.

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    4 days ago

    What’s your go to cocktail? That will inform my suggestions.

    That said, I love club soda and bitters. I’m also partial to juice+mixer. Have not been satisfied with any phony negronis yet… hard to get NA Campari.

    Also if you like beer there are a wealth of NA options these days

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      4 days ago

      Lyre’s makes an N.A. “Italian Orange” that is essentially a Campari substitute. I make my wife a low alc. negroni with that, Lyre N.A. gin, and real vermouth, or mix it with seltzer for something like a Campari spritz. She likes it. Seems reasonable to me from a few sips, but I use alcoholic versions in mine, so I haven’t had it enough to have a strong opinion.

      I should also note that I’m not a stickler for “real” Campari, and have used various Italian red equivalents, like Select, Short Path Amaro, or my current favorite Forthave Red. They all vary a little from Campari in terms of level of bitterness, sweeteness, and spice but bring the same general flavor. And of course the particular vermouth and gin have a big effect on a negroni too…

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          BTW, assuming you like bitter, and are struggling with getting a satisfying level of bitterness in non or low alcohol cocktails, I’ve found Amaro Alta Verde useful for that, provided just a little alcohol is OK. It is 24% alcohol but it is very bitter, so just a little bit goes a long way. It can punch up the bitterness in a thing without otherwise affecting the flavor too much.

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            2 days ago

            Thanks for this. Yes bitter I love it in fruity drinks for sure, don’t really like many of the bittersweet drinks because my palate perceives them as hypersweet, syrupy like straight sugar.

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          2 days ago

          I’m changing my answer to mild.

          I only have the Red to compare it to directly, which itself is a touch less bitter than Campari (more subtle, softer, more complex spice flavors). But the Lyre is less bitter than the Red, also sweeter, and it has just a touch of citrus acidity (which I don’t recall from any alcoholic Campari type liquor). The Lyre is generally a little weak though it does give the general impression of the right sort of flavor.

          Though it occurs to me I’m tasting the Red at a warm room temp, and the Lyre cold (it says to refrigerate or use within 2 weeks… No alcohol to preserve it!) I’ll leave some out and confirm again later. … Nope, controlling for temperature doesn’t change my assessment.

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      4 days ago

      Modified Paper Plane with 2x bourbon and some of the Aperol replaced by Campari is probably my favorite, or just about anything with pineapple and whiskey. Also love a good margarita. Any sour is pretty good.

      Favorite mocktail is by far the Friend Zone but it takes days to set up.