I stopped visiting the USA after they lost their mind in 2001 and took the goodwill and support the rest of the world provided them and weaponized it.
Oh and come drop by Okinawa if anyone is traveling to Japan because we’re severely outnumbered by yanks. I’ll treat you to a beer!
I see some of those interviewed talking about missing Americans or feeling badly that there’s collateral damage, e.g. “Trump’s actions aren’t New York’s fault.”
I really believe strongly that the boycott is good for Americans too in the long term. As a Vegas resident, yes losing your tourism last winter was painful, and we miss you too. There was a special on NPR about it recently and a lot of people just expressed how much they like Canadians and are sad not to interact with you anymore, money aside.
But America is struggling with fascism right now. That is so much more important than anything else. People in power need to LOSE MONEY for things to change. You are doing us all a favor 💕 thank you.
Trump’s actions aren’t New York’s fault.
People who say that need to check the voting records for where they live. (I know you know this. I’m just venting.)
There is nowhere in the USA where Trump didn’t get a metric fuckton of votes. About 3.5 million people (~43%) voted Trump in New York State. 786,294 (~30%) people decided Trump was hunky dory in New York City.
That is way too many incredibly fucking dumb people for comfort. New York gets dumped into the same trash pile as the rest of the USA.
I think it’s important to remember that it’s not that 43% of New Yorkers voted that way, it’s 43% of people who voted, and the number of people who voted is startlingly small.
I’m not saying that because I think the apathy is okay, I don’t, and they should be held accountable for sitting on their hands and being “oh I don’t really pay attention” about it, too. I just think it’s hard to reconcile the outright hostility of the MAGA movement when you meet people every day that are nothing like that. It can feel confusing, but it makes a lot more sense when you think about how easy it is for perfectly nice-seeming people to just stay home and let evil happen (rather than enthusiastically support it, although there’s a lot of that too).
That’s why I gave the numbers too.
Still way too many fucking idiots. NYC/NYS can go DIAF as well.
Looking more and more likely all the time that we’re all gonna lose loved ones, businesses, etc to this stupidity, and we need to
What I find disappointing knowing democratic Americans, is the unwillingness to boycott from within. Most are still feeding Bezos money bc convenience, and the same of many republican-owned businesses. If they can’t boycott for their own good… well, we get he idea.
Be that as it may, 30% is the floor for conservative voters. Conservatives don’t vote the way you think. You’re looking at the facts of the current situation, who is running, and all sorts of things that to the conservative mind is completely irrelevant. 30% will always always always vote for the loudest, most aggressive, most conservative available candidate, not because they are the best person for the office given current conditions, but because that is what one does. They do it out of a sense of duty, every election, whether they are 50% ahead or 50% behind. It’s part of their identity.
Progressives just don’t vote like that. You’re modelling conservatives as though they were just progressives with different opinions. They work differently. But if you ask me, WE could learn from THEM.
Our last 5 trips have been within Canada. Have let my Nexus card expire, won’t be visiting the shithole again. Europe, Central America (without a stopover in the shithole) and Northern Canada are our next stops.
I lived in Inuvik for three years. The far north has a certain rugged beauty that calls to certain people. If you want to explore it, go north of the Arctic Circle, once in mid-summer, once in mid-winter so you can experience 24-hour sunlight and 24-hour night.
As someone who lives in the US and works in parks and conservation this just makes me sad, because there’s so much natural beauty here that’s either being actively destroyed by our government or boycotted because of our government. I used to love showing off this country’s nature and landscapes to people. Now I wish I could boycott the place too
Lots of beauty all over this world that is not run by a dictator.
Smart Canadians.
We would be smarter under proportional representation.
Not really relevant to the topic being discussed, but ok…
Electoral systems affect education. The USA education system is the way it is because of the current political rules.
When it comes to travel, it’s not just boycotting but a fear for my life that stops me from going.
ICE is gleefully plotting the kidnappings of every visitor.
Democrats will not save us from fascism.
Here’s the thing. I follow US politics but like, the whole “you’re not hurting the right people schtick” is wearing thin on me. I don’t care. Sort your shit out. We’re losing businesses on our end too due to this shit. We’re going to look after ourselves because obviously you guys (the dems) aren’t. These Dems don’t seem to want to help us … they want business as usual and that shouldn’t be what we’re going to be encouraging.
Also the messages they send are weird, it’s like, if you come here and can make it through border security and don’t get captured by ICE … we’ll give you a 15% discount!
I posted this elsewhere. Seems appropriate here too:
Democrats are the kinder, gentler face of American fascism. Don’t forget it was St. Obama, winner of the Nobel Prize for Not Being George Bush (formerly known as Nobels fredspris or Nobel Peace Prize in translation), who presided over the War on Iraq (yes, he “ended” it, but then started it up again) and the War on Afghanistan while adding bombing attacks on Libya and Syria (and increasing by an order of magnitude the drone strikes on Pakistan and Somalia). There has never been a brown-skinned person the Democrats weren’t content with bombing or shooting abroad, even when the president was brown-skinned.
