by that time the CIA effectively ruined millions of lives by orchestrating the destruction of the socialist states with their intelligence activities. it doesnt make any sense how every intelligence agency was perfect for orchestrating the atrocities that ended the cold war but they suddenly become stupid when it comes to “ terrorism”.

they knew it was coming but it was good for them because it was the perfect way to manufacture consent for the oil wars. they made “muslims” as a whole a vague threat because this basically allowed them to say every nation in western Asia is a piece of shit radical islamist hellhole and thus its fine to invade them.

i think that our elites know when a “ terrorist “ attack is gonna happen but they allow it because it manufacturers consent for the oil wars. these “ terrorist “ attacks dont really harm the leaders or the capitalist system.

those 2000 something workers that died in 9/11 were long replaced, that fear goes such a long way that even 25 yrs later people still support israel.

even better, it created a cultural war between americans who gleefully joke about it vs those traumatized by it, making class conciousness even harder to achieve. there are no downsides for western governments.

When I was in the military I saw the results of and learned enough about the periphery of the surveillance apparatus to conclude it was 100% allowed to happen at the very least. They absolutely knew the plan, the who, the what, the where, the when, and why. Wouldn’t at all be surprised if the CIA helped orchestrate at least parts of it, but it could have been organic, blowback is a very real thing

i can’t see there being any way they didn’t have an idea
the wtc had been attacked in the past, they got tip offs from flight instructors about shady dudes wanting to learn how to fly but not how to land or radio procedures, and there was a lot of money being thrown around by the saudi binladin group
they had to know something was going on

I am very open to some of the “conspiracy theories” infact I am quite confident CIA/mossad were behind it.

• It is very likely Americans knew it was going to happen and because of unusual short traffic on the airlines involved. But we don’t know who specifically shorted them. Privacy laws or something…

• Larry Silverstein bought (leased) the towers 7 weeks before the attack. For 3.2 billion dollars. He was paid out 4.5 billion by insirance because each flight was considered a separate attack, essentially doubling the payout.

-the towers needed to be renovated to remove large amounts of asbestos from them. It wouldve cost ~1 billion. Although the port authority was paying for that not him.

-edit* almost forgot Larry Silverstein worked in the towers, he was there routinely. But on that day he deviates from his routine and was taking his kid to school or something like that. Which he didn’t normally do.

-building 7? -no footage of pentagon?

I could go on and on. There is just soooo much circumstantial evidence that makes it seem like it wasn’t just “ignored” by the CIA/FBI but very much encouraged. And that some of the events like building 7 or the Pentagon might not be true. I’m sure some of the stuff that doesn’t smell right is actually the truthful story. But there is just such an alarming amount of stuff the doesn’t smell right. -blamed bin laden immediately -bin laden denied it several times -CIA has 100 percent created fake videos of bin laden with actors. (Officially never actually released them) -took forever to get to bin laden -dumped his body at sea, no photos ect.

Did you know that in 1993 the FBI was encouraging its “” islamist informant"" to use real explosives in a plot to blow up the towers. But the source was uncomfortable with it. Many people don’t know about the 1993 world trade center bombing. The FBI literally already tried to blow up the towers but it failed.

Wiki: “Emad A. Salem (born circa 1950) is an FBI informant, who was a key witness in the trial of Ramzi Yousef, Abdul Hakim Murad, and Wali Khan Amin Shah, convicted in the World Trade Center bombing of February 26, 1993. He testified that the bomb was built under supervision from the FBI.[1]”

“During his time as an FBI informant, Salem recorded hours of telephone conversations with his FBI handlers, and reports submitted in court. In tapes made after the bombings, Salem alleged that an unnamed FBI supervisor declined to move forward on a plan that would have used a “phony powder” to fool the conspirators into believing that they were working with genuine explosives. Federal authorities denied Salem’s view of events and The New York Times concluded that the tapes do not make clear the extent to which federal authorities knew that there was a plan to bomb the World Trade Center, merely that they knew that a bombing of some sort was being discussed. But for the recordings, Emad would have been charged as a co-conspirator. It was recordings that were never provided to the New York Times that prevented the FBI from charging Emad.[4]”

He would’ve been charged of it wasnt for the recording he had.

I could make the case even more convincing but I’m on my phone. Essentially having have read the details about many american “terrorist attacks” FBI “Informants” that narrowly missed being fall guys, or were much less of “informants” just agents active facilitating a given attack 911 has all the hallmarks of three letter agency tradecraft.

When you read about Isis, Isis propaganda video creation (in film studios), CIA paying a British firm 500 mil to make fake execution videos “by” al Qaeda, “Isis attacks” in the USA, ect ect you come to realize that you’ve been lied to about every other “terrorist attack”.

I suck at writing buy maybe I should make a substack or some bs lol. Cuz all of this stuff has been bouncing around in my brain with no outlet to make it coherent.

To be clear. I more or less completely believe the events regarding the twin towers. But the Pentagon and building 7 are weird.

I can buy that the Pentagon was shot by a missile and tower 7 was brought down intentionally somehow.

without a doubt the US not only allowed it to happen but planned it. The number of things that happened that day for the first time ever with the coincidences of the training exercises confounding all of Norad along with 3 steel structure high rise buildings falling for the first time ever, none since then… the passports fluttering to the ground… the Pentagon being hit at the most precise angle possible from some numbnuts who had a month of training in a cessna… like none of it is even close to realistic if you exclude US involvement

Salafist takfiri somehow managing to attack the imperialist base should give pause for believing official western narratives.

That’s the extent of my analysis (yeah not that good).

Here’s my take: the United States had, through its Imperialist policies in the middle east, radicalized so many people who had identified the World Trade Center as a pole of that oppression that there was no politically feasible way to prevent its eventual destruction (at least, not without the establishment of a Draconian surveillance-police state that only a terrorist attack like 9/11 could justify).

9/11 wasn’t prevented despite multiple people knowing about it precisely because we don’t exist (or, at least, didn’t back in 2001) in the sort of world where the wealthy and powerful and the deep state are in constant cahoots. That is the view of the conspiracy theorist, not the Marxist. There are connections and backchannels but there are also breakdowns in communication, conflicts over jurisdiction.

I think some people knew enough to tell a select group of “insiders”: “Hey, there’s a chance the towers get bombed today, maybe call off work”, but not enough to, in their minds, justify the mass panic and professional consequences of a public announcement, especially in the case of a false alarm or failed attack. A public announcement may also tip off the hijackers, who could pick a different target or wait for a different day - and if the towers got abandoned because they were too large of a target for terrorism, I think a lot of people in the national security field would consider that “letting the terrorists win” with just the threat of violence.

As far as the Saudi connection, I think that’s the easiest thing to understand. Because Saudi Arabia (and other Gulf States like Jordan, Kuwait, and the UAE) has closer ties to the U.S. especially among the elite, it is easier for terrorists from those countries to get access to the U.S. And connections to those Elites makes it easier to plan and fund terrorist attacks. Bin Laden, being a wealthy Saudi national, was familiar with the Western airline industry and had the resources and connections to enact 9/11 in a way that a radicalized Afghani or Iraqi civilian just doesn’t. That doesn’t change the fact that he was an Arab and a Muslim who opposed the United States’ economic subjugation of his people.

i doubt the government was actively involved but i also sincerely doubt they were caught with their pants down as the official story claims

Which one is the “good one” that implies at least one “bad one”?

I think Kit Klarenberg recently released an article which states that the CIA’s Saudi station (aka alecc station) was trying to recruit the 2 hijackers who hit the south tower i guess. They also knew those 2 hijackers were in the US and did not inform the FBI about it which is extremely sketchy.

Also there was a saudi who was arrested in UK whose diaries contained detailed equations about plane descent and drawing of a plane hitting the Pentagon. He wasnt prosecuted btw.