• Darkonion@lemmy.world
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    Almost like every political system needs accountability and an engaged population who haven’t been bloated on nutrionally depleted bread and spend 24/7 browsing for a better life on the circus machine.

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      who haven’t been bloated on nutrionally depleted bread and spend 24/7 browsing for a better life on the circus machine.

      aka bread and circuses.

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    Socialism is the dispersion of power across a group, ya know, like democracy. Capitalism is the concentration of power into a hierarchy. That’s really all the fearmongering is about. They can’t sit at the top of a hierarchy that doesn’t exist. They can’t build the hierarchy if we have our needs met already.

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    And yet, the capitalists STILL try to threaten you that those things that are ALREADY HAPPENING will happen if you support socialism or communism.

    I’m like “BRO. LOOK AROUND YOU.”

    • Malica@lemmy.zip
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      And since America has their dirty little fingers in everybody’s business, when they catch cold the world will sneeze.

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    I guess, but TbF many places have slipped into unadulterated fascism. Markets are highly manipulated. Just as communists complain that all failed communism wasn’t really communism, a capitalist could rightly complain this isn’t really capitalism.

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      a capitalist could rightly complain this isn’t really capitalism.

      Fascism and capitalism aren’t mutually exclusive. In fact, they go together hand-in-glove

      So no, nobody could rightfully argue that.

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      a capitalist could rightly complain this isn’t really capitalism.

      Capitalism works! It’s just never been tried!

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      Fascism and Capitalism are not opposed. Much rather, fascism is born from capitalist countries, where the owning class controls the media and the government.

      Manipulation of markets is also not contradictory to capitalism. The markets are manipulated by capitalists after all.

      Finally, the past has proven, that capitalism doesn’t need fascism to create crises.

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        This is circular. Communist ideals have also degraded to militant authoritative states. I’m not beating a Pro-capitalist drum, but this concept that theres a clearly superior ideology is so reductionist and boring.

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      the thing is, i can tell you what real communism is: internationalism, where nobody is other-ed by another person. nobody is exploited for another person to relish in their accomplishments. imagine strangers as distant cousins, long lost siblings even and meet them with a real smile.

      what, on the other hand is real capitalism? how would the world look like if we skipped past turbo and got hypercapitalism?

      i yearn for the first thing, i don’t want to imagine what real capitalism might look like.

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    We can use MAUUNNNV as an easy to remember acronym to remember all the ways in which the man keeps is down

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      Creating conditions to force non-corperate farmers to fail and sell their farms to the oligarchs is a communist move as well.

      How do you idiots become so supremely confident about topics you clearly have not done the slightest amount of research on

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        Because we know farmers and hear it directly from them. Do you know how they say if you have to explain yourself, you are already losing? Your right and should hold that opinion until the day you die.

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      It would be communist if there was an intention that the government ownership would provide for all, and not just the extremely wealthy.

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        THERE IS NO GOVERNMENT IN COMMUNISM, THIS IS STATE RUN CAPITALISM JUST LIKE THE USSR.

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          IF THERE ARE PEOPLE ORGANIZING TOGETHER, THERE IS A GOVERNMENT. GOVERNANCE AND ECONOMICS ARE TWO SEPARATE THINGS.

          COMMUNISM IS “STATE-LESS”, NOT WITHOUT GOVERNMENT. YOU CAN HAVE A GOVERNMENT WITHOUT HAVING A STATE STRUCTURE.