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    Who were these people?

    Workers, in construction and gastronomy.

    Did they grow up and work during the socialist period in the country/countries in question?

    Yes, they did.

    Were their parents workers or capitalists?

    Workers

    We have people on this instance who live/lived in a socialist country, with a very different perspective

    I don´t doubt that, individual perspectives differ. Especially regarding the example of Cuba and it´s history it´s totally believable, considering how people had to live there under US American colonization until the revolution. However a lot of Cubans also decide to leave Cuba because of the living conditions socialism created and I am not talking about the Bacardi family but the poor people who swim to Florida on an old inner tube.

    When contemporary Marxists use the term “socialism”, we’re not referring to communism, which is classless and therefore stateless by definition. Communism has never been implemented, and cannot be implemented as long as imperialism remains a threat. Classes remain in every socialist country (Cuba, China, the DPRK, Vietnam, and Laos), and they will exist for the foreseeable future. The fundamental difference between a socialist state and a capitalist state is which class they represent

    Thank you for the elaboration! This definition makes sense to me and I agree with it.

    • However a lot of Cubans also decide to leave Cuba because of the living conditions socialism created

      Socialism in Cuba did not worsen living conditions by any metric. The reason for harsh living conditions during the special period was the dissolution of its biggest trading partner (the USSR) and the disgusting blockade enforced by the US, which continues to this day. Socialism is the reason why Cubans has far better access to education, healthcare, housing, etc. compared to people in most capitalist countries; imperialism is the reason why Cuba has been unable to thrive, and the fact that it’s survived and is doing relatively well despite the ongoing genocide is a testament to the superiority of socialism

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        The reason for harsh living conditions during the special period was the dissolution of its biggest trading partner (the USSR) and the disgusting blockade enforced by the US, which continues to this day.

        You are right, the trade blockades are the main reason for the economic situation in Cuba. I knew that already and I wonder why I did not remember it in this context. Thank you for reminding me.