An oldie, but a goodie

  • arc@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    Yes you could but he didn’t and clearly his style was self evidently effective. And I’d add that if you’ve ever read the LKML archives, that these rants were rare and usually preceded by long chains of discussion before it reached that point.

    • Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz
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      11 months ago

      Doesn’t make it right. Michael Jackson’s dad abused his kids and they became world famous artists, doesn’t mean abusing your kids is acceptable or should be seen as such.

          • Pyro@lemmy.world
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            11 months ago

            Except it’s not a distinction at all.

            analogy (n.) - a comparison between one thing and another, typically for the purpose of explanation or clarification.

            • Claidheamh@slrpnk.net
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              11 months ago

              Of course it is. A square is also a rectangle but it’s still an important distinction.

          • arc@lemm.ee
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            11 months ago

            It’s a rotten analogy. Comparing Linus having a go at some volunteers is not analogous, or comparable to a father abusing kids.

            • Claidheamh@slrpnk.net
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              11 months ago

              The analogy is that the end result doesn’t justify the behaviour from the person in power. It’s apt.

    • deweydecibel@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      Yes you could but he didn’t and clearly his style was self evidently effective.

      Depends on how you define “effective”. Because by his own admission, it gets shit done, but also alienates people in the project and turns off others from joining it.

      So yeah, you’ll get the update pushed, and it’ll work, but down the line you find yourself struggling to keep up without the help of people that don’t want to work with you.

      Linus’ mistake is a classic one: really self-sufficient tech person doing fantastic work with a team but not appreciating that there’s a whole social layer to it that is every bit as important as the standards and procedures at keeping everything working.

      • arc@lemm.ee
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        11 months ago

        I define effective by the fact it was self evidently effective. No need to split hairs or dissemble here. Linux is objectively, indisputably the most important piece of code in the world. Everything else, such as a the context free boo hoo about some times when he has had a go at people is just noise.

        • Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          11 months ago

          Seems like the man himself disagrees with you, since he saw it as a big enough problem to get professional help and make long lasting changes. 🤷‍♂️

          • dk841143@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            11 months ago

            Or he’s just playing the game within the current “social layers” that have attached to or are inherit to the project to placate those who require placating. Not like pubic figures haven’t had to blow sunshine up asses to shut the the “whiners” up before. And if so, maybe those lasting changes are trivial because it was never a major habit to begin with and rare. Its was just an approach to get the result. But you’ve to show the public you care (even if you don’t) and talk about how you worked real hard and put in the work. (Even if the work was trivial)