Vise versa is also true. A number of companies are covering moves for employees who want to get out of states with laws the employees believe put them at personal risk.
No, but I have experienced companies already rooted in Blue states paying to move their employees if they want to relocate for political reasons. They’re also working with insurance companies to expand coverage areas, covering personal travel costs, and allowing extra time off if people have to travel outside of the state they live in to get care they need.
Respectfully, neither company is known for treating their employees very well.
Under the hood of moves like this are a number of things that are favorable to the company at the cost of the individual. Business/tax laws are certainly favorable to the organization, there is no denying that. Cost of labor is lower, as well; these companies are counting on a percentage of people not being able to move and then replacing them with local, cheaper labor. Any employees that are relying on those companies for Visa sponsorship have little-to-no recourse for theses types of decisions and risk losing their status if that aren’t willing to relocate.
I don’t deny companies are moving to states like Texas and Florida and you’d be wrong to deny and ignore individuals who can are leaving those states at a higher-than-normal rate.
If you look at metro areas people are leaving this year, USPS data says Austin is 5th. Houston is 1st. Close to 20% of technologiest who moved to Texas during the pandemic not only regret their decision, but are looking to leave AND are citing fear for themselves and/or their families as why.
My mistake; I should have been more specific. The fear for themselves and/or their family members was related to the political climate and inability to get healthcare.
My guy, that’s like judging the military industrial complex by how satisfied Raytheon shareholders are. Yeah, no shit the people making bank from it like oracle. But as a whole, they tend to be extremely anti-consumer and generally shitty. So for those of us who work with stuff oracle does, it’s really annoying
And Bandit’s claim was “companies are covering moves for employees” so holding them to the claim of “companies moving their HQ or factories” is bad faith.
It’s not the claim Bandit made. Learn to figure out what people are saying instead of putting words in their mouth. You have an awfully hard time keeping track of conversations.
Vise versa is also true. A number of companies are covering moves for employees who want to get out of states with laws the employees believe put them at personal risk.
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No, but I have experienced companies already rooted in Blue states paying to move their employees if they want to relocate for political reasons. They’re also working with insurance companies to expand coverage areas, covering personal travel costs, and allowing extra time off if people have to travel outside of the state they live in to get care they need.
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Respectfully, neither company is known for treating their employees very well.
Under the hood of moves like this are a number of things that are favorable to the company at the cost of the individual. Business/tax laws are certainly favorable to the organization, there is no denying that. Cost of labor is lower, as well; these companies are counting on a percentage of people not being able to move and then replacing them with local, cheaper labor. Any employees that are relying on those companies for Visa sponsorship have little-to-no recourse for theses types of decisions and risk losing their status if that aren’t willing to relocate.
I don’t deny companies are moving to states like Texas and Florida and you’d be wrong to deny and ignore individuals who can are leaving those states at a higher-than-normal rate.
If you look at metro areas people are leaving this year, USPS data says Austin is 5th. Houston is 1st. Close to 20% of technologiest who moved to Texas during the pandemic not only regret their decision, but are looking to leave AND are citing fear for themselves and/or their families as why.
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My mistake; I should have been more specific. The fear for themselves and/or their family members was related to the political climate and inability to get healthcare.
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Ah. I can see this conversation risks becoming uncivil and I’d rather not, so… Later.
As a software dev, good riddance. Yall can have oracle.
Been trying to get off of them for 20 years.
I know someone who works for Oracle and he loves his job and makes like $300k a year. He’s crazy rich. Why do you dislike them?
My guy, that’s like judging the military industrial complex by how satisfied Raytheon shareholders are. Yeah, no shit the people making bank from it like oracle. But as a whole, they tend to be extremely anti-consumer and generally shitty. So for those of us who work with stuff oracle does, it’s really annoying
Oracle as a company has some unpopular decisions. Quite a few in fact.
Heres a reddit thread on it. https://www.reddit.com/r/oracle/comments/q9mtxd/why_do_people_hate_oracle/
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I mean, fair, Oracle is greedy af, but they do represent a lot of jobs, and they arent in a vaccuum either.
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You don’t know how to take a joke.
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No you don’t, you shove your fingers in your ears and bury your head in the sand.
At best, you put words in people’s mouths and the run away when you get called out on something.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts
Pizza, the entire thread’s context is about a company moving their factory.
And Bandit’s claim was “companies are covering moves for employees” so holding them to the claim of “companies moving their HQ or factories” is bad faith.
It’s called moving the goal posts.
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It’s not the claim Bandit made. Learn to figure out what people are saying instead of putting words in their mouth. You have an awfully hard time keeping track of conversations.
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What claim did Bandit make? What claim are you trying to hold them to?
I’ll give you a hint, they’re two different claims, and that’s called moving the goal posts.
And you don’t like that you got called out for it, so you’re just complaining something else.
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What claim did Bandit make? What claim are you trying to hold them to?