Thanks to widespread vaccination, measles had been considered “eliminated” as a continually transmitting illness in the United States since 2000 – but not anymore.
An independent commission of experts that reports to the director of the Pan American Health Organization determined that the US no longer qualified as having eliminated measles, a source close to the process told CNN on Friday. The news was first reported by The Wall Street Journal.
The decision was widely expected after years of falling vaccination levels and surging case counts, but it’s still a black mark on the nation’s public health policy.
MAGGA-Make all Germs Great Again.
Seems like tRUMP is determined to make USA one of those shit-hole countries he likes to denigrate. Does that mean people from Europe, and Canada, etc. will have to check measels vaccine status before visiting the USA? In the USA, some people of a certain age most likely only received one Measels vaccine, instead of the recommended updated two vaccines.
Should these people get another vacccine, to increase their immunity even if by just a little; or just trust this administration to tell you the truth to keep you safe? If you do want to get the vaccine a second time, you will likely have to tell the big chain pharmicies you are traveling to one of the countries outside USA, that has a measels problem. Now, before someone chimes in and says it is a bad idea, because you will take vaccines away from people that want to get it; consider there is currently no shortage of the vaccine-and every vaccine denier that risks their children, frees up another vaccine (theoretically). Again, this is only for people of certain age that likely received only 1 measels vaccine, instead of recommended two; and do not have natural immunity from having measels, before vaccines were available.
We are so fucking stupid. Anyivaxers need to be sent to an island and closed off so they can just mutate in isolation.
Like Sentinel Island?
Could antivaxxers on an isolated island actually develop better immune system because of heavier natural selection pressure?
No. The population would be too small and they’d die too fast. If you’ve ever played Plague Inc., you know that to win as a disease, you want to strike a balance between deadliness, incubation time, and infectiousness.
Ebola is really bad because it’s very infectious, very deadly, and isn’t immediately symptomatic. But, since it kills the host so effectively, tramission is limited.
COVID was a global pandemic because it had a good incubation time, was fairly infectious, and didn’t debilitate the host.
Like Sentinel Island?
We went through thousands of years with smallpox and humans never developed significant resistance.
Forgot to add “jr”
We used to burn witches for far less than this. This is a solvable problem with simple policy and infrastructure that already exists. There are guilty living people with names and addresses that are responsible for atrocities against humanity.
That was an excuse to burn women. No one in the whole GOP is going to tie RFK Jr to a pyre and set him on fire.
I’m so tired of winning.
This is tragic that vulnerable people suffer and signs of failed education and propaganda over science. Everyone should read Sagan’s Demon Haunted World or at least a summary of it like this: Give a summary of Sagan’s Demon Haunted World and the ways to spot misleading people and quack ideas, include the invisible dragon story. duck.ai/share/b60d6c03-ce4c-484c-9dc8-4cd607501146#TfYcC-1g2Z03dmJAxh-B0zMwt4tQ-nDbNUeM9pT7V0s
getting measles to own the libs
Most of these assholes were probably already vaccinated as children. They likely won’t suffer an infection. It’s their poor innocent children + infants and immunocompromised people (like me!) who can’t be vaccinated that they’re causing to suffer and even die because of their selfish idiocy. It’s beyond disgusting.
Honestly, this is on-brand for conservatives.
As long as it doesn’t affect them, they are fine. Even their children dying isn’t enough for them to say they were wrong. There are interviews with conservative parents who killed their kids by not vaccinating and they double down and said they did the right thing.
Remember that the main point for conservatives is that they want to oppress.
Well you can’t expect them to change tack after their kids dies. Then they would have to admit they killed their kid.
Not surprising their children dying doesn’t change their minds. Not the kind of people to update beliefs based on new input, otherwise they wouldn’t be antivaxxers.
Some did change from the norm that these vaccines are safe and they got them as children, then fall for the lies from their tribal sources, and think they are so smart, while vulnerable people get hurt. It is sad they are indoctrinated into dualism and must obey for conditional belonging, rather than leave that for the truth.
All thanks to a worm-brained moron who, I hope, will someday face legal consequences for his crimes.
Also, actually developed nations need to impose barriers to the entry of americans unless they show proof of vaccination.
While I’m no fan of RFK, I don’t think you can give him ALL the credit. Our President deserves some credit as well. And then there is every single person who opted out. This was coming with or without RFK, he just hurried it along.
Anti-measles vaccine sentiment has been going on a long time. Well before Trump. Saw this frequently in South Orange County, CA.
If the law in the US was just, so much of what’s happening there would be illegal, so many people would have to face consequences. I truly hope this will happen one day. Start from the top, and those two guys are certainly up there.
This is absolutely the crux of the issue. RFK Jr. likely, at least from a policy standpoint, hasn’t done anything illegal in this role. Our agencies and their administration were built with a level of trust that those appointed would work for the common good. It was believed that even if the president was insane that Congress would never approve an incompetent person to head a department. Yet here we are.
I’m sure he’s taking illegal bribes that could lead to some charges, but stuff like the constant food recalls and allowing these terrible diseases to come back likely isn’t illegal.
There’s also probably a lot of crimes in his personal life, but causing children to die of preventable disease is perfectly legal. Very messed up situation
Our agencies and their administration were built with a level of trust that those appointed would work for the common good.
Germany needed one Third Reich to learn from that mistake, and its current legal apparatus is very focused on not relying on Trust Me Bro. It’s called Gewaltenteilung, which is sometimes translated as checks and balances, but I find the German term to be less ambiguous. It means Separation of powers.
I mean most other countries also have that but Germany’s goes a few steps further, and also served as a blueprint for others. And last but not least, Americans also had a hand in the post-war process there, so … America used to be better?
We also have checks and balances/seperation of powers, it was just assumed that all 3 branches would never be compromised at the same time.
Basically imagine the AFD controls every power in the government. If I recall Germany has some more rigidity in the constitution with certain provisions that can never be changed. Which helps a lot, but overall the German system is strikingly similar to the American one. It is a bit more refined though
Or that Congress would cede its power to the executive. The president is supposed to be a fairly weak position.
The longer this goes on, the more I think we should dump the current system and adopt a full parliamentary system. Proportional representation and ranked choice voting. Make the president ceremonial again.
Theoretically Congress still has the power to reclaim anything they gave to the executive branch, but it’s too much about party politics now. Congress isn’t interested in its own power.
I agree a parliamentary system would be significantly better though
We also have (…) seperation of powers
Not so much since the Patriot Act
Large portions of the act expired in 2020 and it didn’t erase seperation of powers. It did allow the executive branch to do more but Congress still retained the ability to stop it with a 2/3rds vote or a simple majority if the executive branch agreed. The normal legislative process was still in effect.
While I disagree with the act in many ways, claiming it entirely removed seperation of powers is just demonstrably false.
How can you possibly know this would’ve happened without RFK? But even if you’re right, hurried along isn’t really better. That’s like saying “he was going to die anyway, I just hurried that process along, it’s not murder!”
His job is literally the opposite of hurrying disease along. Hell even if it wasn’t his job and he was some other cabinet member who accidentally influenced people to not be vaccinated one time with one misstatement, in my mind even that still should mean prosecutable culpability.
Is this what winning looks like?
sure, winning a Darwin Award
This is completely coincidental, and has nothing to do with the current administration being a bunch of morons. Drink some bleach or stuff a light bulb up your ass, that should fix it. /s
Thanks, rfkjr.
So did Manitoba, Canada, but we were recently given the all-clear again. Go science!
