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Neuromancer@lemm.ee to Progressive Politics, Gun Control, Single Payer Healthcare and Free Abortions for All!@lemm.ee · 2 年前

Colorado Supreme Court removes Trump from 2024 ballot based on 14th Amendment’s ‘insurrectionist ban’ — CNN

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Colorado Supreme Court removes Trump from 2024 ballot based on 14th Amendment’s ‘insurrectionist ban’ — CNN

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Neuromancer@lemm.ee to Progressive Politics, Gun Control, Single Payer Healthcare and Free Abortions for All!@lemm.ee · 2 年前
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In a stunning and unprecedented decision, the Colorado Supreme Court removed former President Donald Trump from the state’s 2024 ballot, ruling that he isn’t an eligible presidential candidate because of the 14th Amendment’s “insurrectionist ban.”
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    I thought states had full autonomy from the feds to run their election.

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      States don’t, mostly because racists Democratic states wouldn’t let POC vote.

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        I’m sure you must have sources and citations to back up the allegations that you are making.

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          Poll taxes were a scheme democrats uses to stop POCs from voting. They were abolished with the 24th. Amendment. Literacy tests were another way racists democrats suppressed voting that was stopped with the voting rights act of 1965.

          https://constitution.laws.com/24th-amendment

          https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/voting-rights-act

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            The 24th amendment?

            The one that was ratified in 1964?

            You other example was from 1965?

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              Yes the 24th admendment was ratified in 1964 and the voting rights act in 1965.

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                Fifty-eight years ago?

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                  Yes I’ll trust you on the math.

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        Not a lawyer but the issue I see he hasn’t been convicted of anything close to rebellion.

        The 14th specifies no requirement for conviction. And historical precedent* has been set such that it does not require conviction.

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          *precedent

          Damn auto correct 😁

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          Is there precedent? I’m not aware of anyone else who’s been banned from elections for insurrection, but this also isn’t my area. I kind of assumed it would follow the ‘innocent until proven guilty in a court of law’ thing, but I also don’t know how much of a hard and fast rule that is for this type of crime.

          I am genuinely curious. I kind of assumed he would never actually be charged and the amendment could never be invoked as a result.

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            https://www.citizensforethics.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Chart-of-Past-14.3-Disqualifications-rev.-07.10.23.pdf

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            I do not accept your attempt to move the goal posts. Your claim was about whether conviction was necessary. It is not.

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        I am not a lawyer either, I guess we’ll see what the Supreme Court says after Jan 4th.

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            You might not call him a conservative but he’s the head of the party and the leading nominee right now.

            At this point he is the definition of an American conservative whether you like him or not.

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                Who is the leader?

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                    I didn’t have high hopes for your answer but you still managed to disappoint.

                    Trump has a stranglehold on the party and the movement.

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