• PizzaMan@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    At a minimum you guys could at least attempt to understand the argument.

    https://www.alreporter.com/2023/09/21/opinion-school-choice-is-a-scam-designed-to-hurt-the-most-vulnerable-students/

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/alabama-political-reporter/

    Tl;DR: “School choice” is as good for freedom as the Patriot Act was for privacy. It’s a bullshit label to cover for the fact that the actual policy ends up fucking over society by under funding already struggling schools and instead giving the money to corporations that already have too much power.

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        2 years ago

        This is why liberals look confused to people. They scream we want to be more like Europe then scream when we want to be more like Europe.

        This is a strawman. Quit trying to put words in my mouth.

        If a community is under funded then it’s that community fault.

        Not really. There are housing developers and real estate orgs that intentionally destroy neighborhood housing value for their own profit. The lower house prices mean that local schools go underfunded because of how property tax is tied to school funding.

        https://www.americanprogress.org/article/systemic-inequality-displacement-exclusion-segregation/

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockbusting

        https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/blockbusting/

        On top of that, marginalized demographics do not have the generational wealth required to get better jobs, meaning they can’t bear the burden.

        Tax them more but don’t tax me to pay for other areas.

        Fuck that. No school should be left behind because of some made up failure to pull up bootstraps that don’t exist.

        Piss away your vote if you like, but I’m going to vote to keep society educated. I don’t want to live in a world of uneducated assholes, especially considering how big of a factor education is in crime rates.

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            2 years ago

            The local communities can vote a tax in.

            I already addressed that:

            “On top of that, marginalized demographics do not have the generational wealth required to get better jobs, meaning they can’t bear the burden.”

            It’s not my job to pay another schools upkeep. I

            I can’t fathom why somebody would want higher crime rates. Failing to educate the public leads to higher crime rates.

            Republicans truly are the party of crime.

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                2 years ago

                we just keep them incarcerated.

                How very freedom. We are number one in prisoners per capita. Land of the Free my ass.

                Any system that intentionally increases crime, prisoners per capita, and cost is a bad system. There are alternatives that reduce all three. But it requires everyone investing in education.

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    2 years ago

    Well I happen to think public schools in the USA are some of the best schools In America.

    But school privitization is a purely ideological fever dream of Milton Friedman who believed that the profit driven free markets are the most efficient at doing everything, and that the only social responsibility of business is to increase its profits. This makes sense ifor widget factories and pottery barns, but not public services, not childcare and not the education of a nation’s citizens. Efficiency is not the most important metric of success if it means making services unaffordable or unavailable to portions of the public. A profit seeking school could deny service to learning disabled or neurodivergent children. Trying to make a profit in cases like this would probably mean more government intervention, and the results are usually less beneficial to the public than the government services provided in the first place.

    Anyway, private schools aren’t any better than public schools. https://www.jacksonville.com/story/special/special-sections/2018/07/27/study-private-schools-not-better-at-educating-kids/11260129007/

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    2 years ago

    Good thing the US is a constitutional republic then!

    The only thing school choice undermines is the justification for her office.