This is fascinating. Your comments come across as very combative and angry, while most responses read and feel calm, if defensive, and often trying to process a point with other facts or claims. I want to ask why you don’t shift how you say things and support your arguments? I shit you not, most of us on the not-fascist side don’t mind listening to alternative views and perspectives. They just need to be laid out in a way that also doesn’t make us feel as if we need to go on the defensive. That’s conversation. It’ll get us all somewhere rather than drawing lines just to draw them.
Honestly a lot of it is just that I have barely treated anger issues and I’m going through drug withdrawals. That’s not an excuse to be an asshole on the internet, I’m just really struggling to not throw my phone against the wall, let alone write a measured reply to people who think I’m worse than a trump voter.
It doesn’t help that whenever I bring up not really liking biden or being on the fence about voting for him, a bunch of smug liberals come out to tell me I’m a nazi for not voting for someone barely left of reagan who p much never opposes republicans or corporations. Even under good circumstances I don’t take well to being called a Nazi, so I go on the offensive.
I’m also open to having my mind changed, and even voting for biden if it turns out he’s better than I thought. It still seems like the logical choice to try and outlast culture war conservatives, though I’m really really starting to doubt whether democrats will ever stop going right, which makes voting for them feel like keeping the valve closed on a boiler that’s about to explode. I’d love to hear how Dark Brandon is actually the best president since Jesus, but I haven’t seen any indication he’s better than any other right wing neolib
Thank you for the measured reply. Honestly, I know it takes effort, possibly doubly so for you. I’ve always been of the mind that if a policy or idea makes sense, if it’s actually good, I’ll support it. Whomever else supports it doesn’t matter to me, or their reasons. Every day people make the right choices for the wrong reason, and I say let them make those choices. The issue for every single one of us, myself included, is that our perception of right and wrong is always marred by our experiences, our personal perspective.
An example of this is I will vote Biden just to make sure Trump doesn’t end up in power again. I foresee a future under his dictatorship where many will suffer. Not because of him, because his base and the Republicans that bow to him, will become emboldened, and the people that know how, will manipulate him. As we’ve seen: What many of us would consider rash choices or unwise decisions are daily drivers for the Far Right. Yet many of them likely believe they’re correct, some of them justified under unusual circumstances in their minds, others having essentially spent a life time only listening to specific rhetoric.
If any reader makes it this far, thank you. I dislike choosing sides and believe that the majority of us simply wish to live a good life. Even the ones who only wish for others to have a bad life are inversely projecting on their desires to have it better themselves. This divide in our culture is orchestrated and it’d be wonderful if we stopped dancing to the movement of the strings held by the weathly and influential.
This is fascinating. Your comments come across as very combative and angry, while most responses read and feel calm, if defensive, and often trying to process a point with other facts or claims. I want to ask why you don’t shift how you say things and support your arguments? I shit you not, most of us on the not-fascist side don’t mind listening to alternative views and perspectives. They just need to be laid out in a way that also doesn’t make us feel as if we need to go on the defensive. That’s conversation. It’ll get us all somewhere rather than drawing lines just to draw them.
Honestly a lot of it is just that I have barely treated anger issues and I’m going through drug withdrawals. That’s not an excuse to be an asshole on the internet, I’m just really struggling to not throw my phone against the wall, let alone write a measured reply to people who think I’m worse than a trump voter.
It doesn’t help that whenever I bring up not really liking biden or being on the fence about voting for him, a bunch of smug liberals come out to tell me I’m a nazi for not voting for someone barely left of reagan who p much never opposes republicans or corporations. Even under good circumstances I don’t take well to being called a Nazi, so I go on the offensive.
I’m also open to having my mind changed, and even voting for biden if it turns out he’s better than I thought. It still seems like the logical choice to try and outlast culture war conservatives, though I’m really really starting to doubt whether democrats will ever stop going right, which makes voting for them feel like keeping the valve closed on a boiler that’s about to explode. I’d love to hear how Dark Brandon is actually the best president since Jesus, but I haven’t seen any indication he’s better than any other right wing neolib
Thank you for the measured reply. Honestly, I know it takes effort, possibly doubly so for you. I’ve always been of the mind that if a policy or idea makes sense, if it’s actually good, I’ll support it. Whomever else supports it doesn’t matter to me, or their reasons. Every day people make the right choices for the wrong reason, and I say let them make those choices. The issue for every single one of us, myself included, is that our perception of right and wrong is always marred by our experiences, our personal perspective.
An example of this is I will vote Biden just to make sure Trump doesn’t end up in power again. I foresee a future under his dictatorship where many will suffer. Not because of him, because his base and the Republicans that bow to him, will become emboldened, and the people that know how, will manipulate him. As we’ve seen: What many of us would consider rash choices or unwise decisions are daily drivers for the Far Right. Yet many of them likely believe they’re correct, some of them justified under unusual circumstances in their minds, others having essentially spent a life time only listening to specific rhetoric.
If any reader makes it this far, thank you. I dislike choosing sides and believe that the majority of us simply wish to live a good life. Even the ones who only wish for others to have a bad life are inversely projecting on their desires to have it better themselves. This divide in our culture is orchestrated and it’d be wonderful if we stopped dancing to the movement of the strings held by the weathly and influential.