Regardless of if it’s practical to live that way in daily life, the world seems pretty determined. Everything happens because a vast amount of interactions between infinite factors causes it to. You can’t really say you choose between things as many influences have been taken in by you and many things have affected your psychological state. Has everything been practically decided by the big bang? Now, this is not to say we can know everything or predict the future, but we know what’s likely. Socialism or extinction may be inevitable, but we don’t know yet. Socialism can only happen if people keep fighting, regardless. People will be convinced or principled or not. Science seems to agree with this, and only few, like the wrong Sartre would propose we have ultimate free will. So are there any arguments against determinism? I know there is a saying that you’re freer when you recognize how your freedom is restricted, and that recognition may make your actions better, but isn’t there ultimately no freedom?

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    the most decent argument i have heard is that despite the fact that u are the result of some chemicals and stuff in ur brain and the past events u have expirenced and therefore if “god does not play dice” (which like it seems it does and Einstein was wrong cuz some things seem random) then despite the fact that ur decisions and actions are deterministic they are still ur decisions and actions u are still doing what u want to do and deciding what u want, so despite the fact that some theoretical being with perfect knowledge about everything could predict ur actions they would still be ur actions and ur decisions and that technically free will.

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      6 months ago

      That would be a stretch. If you want things based on outside forces are you “free” to choose based on those desires?

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        6 months ago

        Is it? maybe but given the assumption that the universe is deterministic (which u seem to be making) it is basically the only decent argument.