• EatATaco@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    26
    arrow-down
    20
    ·
    9 months ago

    I would argue the quality has been improving as if late. But kind of hard to blame him for the fact that the world was gripped and massively disrupted a by a pandemic and the financial moves by the fed to stave off an even worse financial melt down led to high inflation. But we’re going in the right direction, even if it isn’t fast enough for some people.

    • doingthestuff@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      30
      arrow-down
      6
      ·
      9 months ago

      Wages aren’t keeping up with inflation for most people. The wage increases reported are mostly driven by top earners. It isn’t moving at the bottom. Longer lines than ever at food pantries. I remember when Democrats used to at least pretend to give a shit about that stuff.

          • Maggoty@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            9
            arrow-down
            7
            ·
            9 months ago

            Whose wages?

            Even without answering that question let’s take a look at the 2023 numbers. According to BLS weekly wages went from 55k to 59k a seven percent increase. Inflation was 3.4. So we regained 3.6 percent.

            The pandemic alone was worth 10 percent. And we’ve been left behind by the hundreds of points over the decades.

            So while technically true, your statement is very misleading.

            • EatATaco@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              10
              arrow-down
              4
              ·
              9 months ago

              The poster said that over the last year, wages have out paced inflation. Pointing out how that is not true for years prior doesn’t mean his statement is misleading.

              My comment, where this all comes from, was about how things are getting better as of late. So in context especially the comment is appropriate.

              • Maggoty@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                5
                ·
                9 months ago

                Regaining 3.6 percent out of 137 points is a drop in the bucket. Of course if you frame it as just this last year it looks great. But food is still up by 20 percent on it’s own. Trying to take a victory lap on this is how the working class gets fucked over again.

                • EatATaco@lemm.ee
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  arrow-down
                  3
                  ·
                  9 months ago

                  Saying we’re heading in the right direction is not taking a victory lap.

                  It’s funny that you are whining about it being misleading, while repeatedly misrepresenting other comments.

                  • Maggoty@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    3
                    ·
                    9 months ago

                    It absolutely is a victory lap. Because we get this news and then nothing for another decade when suddenly everyone realizes we never made good on that progress. It happened in 2003, 2008, 2012, and now 2019. So yeah fuck that. I’m done waiting to be forgotten and then yelling into the void because the narrative of the win has set into the zeitgeist.

            • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              7
              arrow-down
              6
              ·
              9 months ago

              It’s not technically true, it’s just true. I specifically said “for the past year”, so bringing up “over the decades” is what’s misleading.

              Especially in the context of Joe Biden, who has not been president for the past several decades.

              • Maggoty@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                4
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                9 months ago

                Yup you framed it the one possible way to make it look like good news. Great job, the Kremlin is always hiring propogandists.

      • EatATaco@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        9 months ago

        Wages aren’t keeping up with inflation for most people.

        This is both very specific claim, but very vague as to what you mean. What is “many” and where are you getting these numbers?

    • Maggoty@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      11
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      9 months ago

      This has been a decades long problem that he has contributed to over his entire career.

      • EatATaco@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        9
        ·
        9 months ago

        More specifics please.

        But, ftr, we’re talking about his presidency, which has been way more progressive than him throughout his career.

        • Maggoty@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          7
          ·
          9 months ago

          1994 Crime Bill, giving many people records and restricting their access to voting/housing/jobs/life.

          1996 one of 24 Democrats to vote for the Welfare reform bill that kicked many people off of government benefits and caused needless suffering.

          2003 American Dream Downpayment Act. It increased the amount of Adjustable Rate Mortgage you could get and made them available to low income families. This would prove to be a trap in 2008 that anyone with a basic education in economics could see coming because the rate was adjustable.

          That’s just three examples, I’m not going to keep going. This is an old problem, older than- Well I was going to say older than him but he was elected to the Senate in 1972. He has presided over the entire crushing of the middle and working class. And we put him in the white house for it.

        • Maggoty@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          9 months ago

          1994 Crime Bill, giving many people records and restricting their access to voting/housing/jobs/life.

          1996 one of 24 Democrats to vote for the Welfare reform bill that kicked many people off of government benefits and caused needless suffering.

          2003 American Dream Downpayment Act. It increased the amount of Adjustable Rate Mortgage you could get and made them available to low income families. This would prove to be a trap in 2008 that anyone with a basic education in economics could see coming because the rate was adjustable.

          That’s just three examples, I’m not going to keep going. This is an old problem, older than- Well I was going to say older than him but he was elected to the Senate in 1972. He has presided over the entire crushing of the middle and working class. And we put him in the white house for it.

    • Deceptichum@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      24
      arrow-down
      20
      ·
      edit-2
      9 months ago

      Research constantly points to things getting worse, especially for younger generations. At best you could say the rate of decline has slowed somewhat recently.

      And it’s unfair to blame it on the pandemic, the trends been going on for much longer.

        • Deceptichum@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          25
          arrow-down
          8
          ·
          9 months ago

          It’s not his fault it happened, it’s his fault he’s not doing enough to fix it. He campaigned on the status quo, yet the status quo is the problem.

          Fundamental change needs to happen.

          • maniclucky@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            4
            ·
            9 months ago

            He’s not magic. He can’t actually wave a wand and do anything. He’s gotta get congress on board for anything meaningful that can’t be undone the second someone else sits in the chair. Incremental change sucks, but acting like he’s been doing nothing is dumb. That’s not to say he hasn’t done bad things (looks at Israel), but painting him as inept is disingenuous at best.

          • Wiz@midwest.social
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            8
            arrow-down
            11
            ·
            9 months ago

            Explain what changes can happen with Republicans in charge of the House.

            • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              5
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              9 months ago

              We could deschedule cannabi-- oh who am I kidding? We can support Netanyahu’s genocide even harder.

            • hglman@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              8
              arrow-down
              4
              ·
              9 months ago

              I like how you can’t imagine a leader actually wanting change.

            • Maggoty@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              4
              arrow-down
              4
              ·
              edit-2
              9 months ago

              Trump sure seemed to change a lot with a divided Congress… Biden isn’t doing it because he doesn’t want to. But because he can’t.