• db2@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    It’s illegal for them to do that, BTW. They have to prove magisk damaged your battery.

    And you have to be able to afford those rights. If you can’t afford to sue them then you’re screwed.

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      5 months ago

      That’s where the arbitration clauses they make you agree to are actually helpful.

      THEY have to pay for arbitration. You don’t need an attorney, and generally they’ll just take care of you because it’s cheaper than hiring an arbiter.

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        Isn’t forced arbitration when the jury deciding on the case is on the payroll of the company you’re having the problem with in the first place?

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          Not exactly.

          It’s when there’s a third-party arbiter. In the case of customers seeking damages against these companies, the arbitration agencies are paid for by the company, but often there’s a list of arbiters the complainant can choose between.

          My personal strategy has always been to pick the most expensive one so that whether I win or lose, the company stags to lose more money on the process than by simply making me whole.

          The real reason for forced arbitration is because it makes DIY class action suits impossible.

          Otherwise, a company with a class action waiver would find themselves facing 10,000 cases from the same law firm instead of 1 case with 10,000 plaintiffs.

          With forced arbitration they can skip out on the cost process entirely and make the defendant do more leg work.

          And, importantly, there’s no precedent with arbitration. Losing the first case doesn’t necessarily snowball into you losing the next 9,999 cases with identical facts.

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      If you read further, I give suggestions on how to do that without a lawyer.

      It’s going to cost the company more money to call their lawyers than just doing the repair, so it usually doesn’t even take a ton of push back.