• PizzaMan@lemm.ee
      133·
      1 year ago

      We have gun control.

      Some states have a small amount. The rest basically have none. And even the states that do have gun control pail in comparison to German gun control as Peepin pointed out.

      And you’re ignoring the fact that any given gun law is only as strong as the weakest gun law nationwide. Anybody can go traveling to another state where the gun laws are lax and get a gun.

      The gun control in this country is laughably weak as a result. Couple that with having the most guns per capita of any country out there, it’s a recipe for having a shooting basically every god damned day.

        • PizzaMan@lemm.ee
          113·
          1 year ago

          As I broke down, the requirements to own a gun in Germany and in America are very similar at the federal level.

          That is objectively false.

          Country Good reason required? Personal protection Long guns Handguns Semi automatic Fully automatic Open carry Concealed carry Mag cap limits Free of registration Max penalty (years)
          United States No Yes Permitless in most states – 4 states: Shall-issue permit – 17 states: Background check for all sales Permitless in most states Permitless in most states - 8 states: Shall-issue permit - 23 states: Background check for all sales Permitless in most states Restrictions in some states Pre-1986 only Permitless: 32 states - Shall issue: 12 states - May issue: 1 state - Anomalous: 1 state – Illegal: 4 states Permitless or shall-issue in all states Varies internally [Varies internally](Federal: 10 years, State: Varies)
          Germany Yes – sport shooting, hunting, collecting Proof of threat to life required – rarely granted Yes – shall issue Yes – shall issue Yes – shall issue No Proof of threat to life required – Near no issue in practice Proof of threat to life required – Near no issue in practice 20 (SACFP) No 10

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_of_gun_laws_by_nation

          And that’s before you get into all the other restrictions that germany has on a national level. To pick out a few:

          • Gun license required for pretty much everything that isn’t a musket

          • A license requires you to be over 18, be trustworthy, capable of owning a gun, have expert knowledge, and have a necessity for a gun

          • Ban on convicted felons, those with addictions or metal disorders from owning guns

          • Any weapon defined as a weapon of war is banned

          Gun control in the U.S. is nowhere near the level of gun control in Germany. A requirement for a license to own a gun in the U.S. would get shut down by the 2nd amendment so fucking hard not even the NSA would know the attempt was made.

            • PizzaMan@lemm.ee
              124·
              1 year ago

              Fully automatic systems are regulated in the United States at the federal level.

              I understand how federalism works, evidently that skill escapes you.

              You can legally own a fully automatic gun in the U.S., unlike Germany. Even your cherypicked point is wrong.

              Still, how would any of these changed the Kansas City shooting?

              I’ve already answered this, and the answer went sailing over your head.

                • PizzaMan@lemm.ee
                  102·
                  1 year ago

                  Then clarify as I don’t see how how any of this would have stopped the shooting.

                  Nah, you’re not worth the effort. You’d just find a new way to side step the meaning of what I am saying.

                  Your chart was wrong and I called it out. Are you intentionally posting false information since you knew it was wrong ?

                  I just explained why it isn’t.

                  You realize gun control really started during Nazi germany to keep the Jews from defend themselves.

                  And this country was founded on the blood of the natives, and built by slaves. So what?