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    It’s funny because an earlier bit of context that you have cut out from the 2nd discusses the needs of this militia to be well regulated.

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      You missed the comma between the militia and bear arms statements. Below are common instances when a comma should be used. None of the uses of a comma make the 2nd phrase conditional on the 1st.

      • Separating items in a list of three or more
      • Connecting two independent clauses with a coordinating conjunction
      • Setting apart non-restrictive relative clauses
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        Setting apart non-restrixtive relative clauses seems a simple solution to what yall don’t get.

        The grouping of an amendment already implies the components are related, as each amendment is supposed to represent a single right.

        If you are not a part of a well regulated militia, you have no right to bear arms.

        See how I used a comma to form a single thought chaining multiple requirements?

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          Each amendment doesn’t represent a single right. The 1st covers freedom of religion, freedom of speech, & freedom of the press.

          The “if” placed the conditional requirement not the comma.

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            The linguistics at the time didn’t use the coding logic of if then as often outside of scientific scenarios.

            There is a clear declaration of the need for regulation of gun ownership. What separate right are you proposing the same sentence is declaring?

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      Given that gun free zones make easy shooting victims, what can have government regulations will prevent people dedicated to commiting homicide?

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        If you take a cup of water out of a bucket, does it leave behind a cup shaped opening in the water?

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        Sounds like we are in agreement that the amendment is able to be changed to be relevant to modern interpretations.

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          Nah, the militia bit was always a separate dependent clause (in the English grammar sense). It’s reasoning.

          The right shall not be infringed is an independent clause. It stands on it’s own. I know almost no one remembers elementary school, but independent vs dependent clauses are taught there. Anyone remember diagramming sentences?

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            You mean, you have an idea in your head that you think should be enforced on everybody despite it not being democratically placed.

            The word for that is fascist. And it just so happens to be the right to deadly violence lmao.

            Irony is dead.

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                And none of that applies to thoughts living in your head. You want to enforce your beliefs on everybody without any government process.

                Those beliefs is in regards to your right to deadly violence.

                You are a violent fascist who uses linguistics on democracy and constitutional republic to dismiss the violence you are advocating.

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                    I recommend you read the thread if you are confused about the discussion.

                    We weren’t discussing a political process. We were discussing your headcannon of the 2nd amendment and how it aligns perfectly with the stance of a violent fascist.

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            be careful with modern interpretations

            Man, I can’t get over you flip-flopping right here.

            You literally chimed in to insist upon a modern interpretation, then immediately said nobody else should do so.

            Conservatives are inherently incapable of honest debate.