Yeah, our ancestors stopped genocide during World War 2. And then other ancestors tried to engage in genocide against Vietnam. And now we’re only just starting to attempt to convince Israel to not do genocide. So the record currently stands 1-1, with the current one being the tiebreaker.
I don’t tend to engage with people whose only rebuttal is to a strawman, because it’s not going to do a damn thing. Takes more effort to refute the bullshit people like that will fling than an argument with them on the internet is worth, so I usually just point and laugh.
That being said, allow me to give you a more accurate representation of my argument; because I’m feeling generous.
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There are five major wars America participated in that tend to be prevalent in my generation’s psyche. These, listed chronologically, are: the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, World War 2, the Vietnam War, and the War on Terror.
Of these, two of them dealt heavily with genocide. World War 2 because we were simultaneously avenging one and preventing its completion, and Vietnam because the overwhelming attitude of the US’ commanding officers in that war was, “Kill all Commies,” and the majority saw no difference between a Communist and your average Vietnamese person.
Therefore: in my generation’s psyche, our country is one and one in terms of genocides stopped and genocides attempted.
In addition, the United States is one of the main sponsors of Israel as a country, and is basically the entire reason it hasn’t been wiped out by all of its neighbors, who hate it and everyone in it. They all realise that to attack Israel would cause the US to retaliate and basically wipe them off the map. This gives the US a certain level of responsibility for what Israel has decided to do whilst under that protection, since it wouldn’t have happened otherwise.
Further: the UN’s call for a ceasefire in that conflict has been vetoed by the United States. So basically that makes the US responsible for allowing the bloodshed to continue.
Therefore: yeah, the United States is, in fact, responsible for Israel’s continuing genocide attempt by vetoing the call for ceasefire and not doing anything tangible to stop the bloodshed committed by a country it has protected from its inception to today.
Overall: we are one and one for genocide v not-genocide, and it’s not looking good.
Incoherent nonsense. Saying America and the Allies was not a claim of separation, it was an including statement on who stopped Germany while discussing America. Of course that’s the petty bullshit you want to bicker with.
America wasn’t neighbors with the fascist regime. They stepped up so pretending they dont deserve a special nod is bad faith input too. Russia also teamed up with Germany initially and only changed teams to protect their sovereignty.
Everything you say is some basic removal of context to bitch about nonsense.
Stepped up after years, after an attack on their own soil and to profit greatly.
America has a right to be proud of their place in WW2 but given Americas pride related to absolutely everything they do they need reminding of all the horrible shit they did. Like not freeing everyone from camps immediately.
Oh snap, we invading.
I mean, it probably won’t be worse then the status quo
We say that every time and every time it gets worse
WW2 Nazi Germany. America and the Allies stopped the Holocaust.
You can say we’ve fucked a lot of our military interventions up, but we have stopped genocide before.
Yeah, our ancestors stopped genocide during World War 2. And then other ancestors tried to engage in genocide against Vietnam. And now we’re only just starting to attempt to convince Israel to not do genocide. So the record currently stands 1-1, with the current one being the tiebreaker.
This is a hilariously misleading summary of American history.
Fucking lmao
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Oh, hello strawman argument! How are you doing?
Crying strawman isn’t going to make your shit attempt at an American history lesson more accurate.
I don’t tend to engage with people whose only rebuttal is to a strawman, because it’s not going to do a damn thing. Takes more effort to refute the bullshit people like that will fling than an argument with them on the internet is worth, so I usually just point and laugh.
That being said, allow me to give you a more accurate representation of my argument; because I’m feeling generous.
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There are five major wars America participated in that tend to be prevalent in my generation’s psyche. These, listed chronologically, are: the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, World War 2, the Vietnam War, and the War on Terror.
Of these, two of them dealt heavily with genocide. World War 2 because we were simultaneously avenging one and preventing its completion, and Vietnam because the overwhelming attitude of the US’ commanding officers in that war was, “Kill all Commies,” and the majority saw no difference between a Communist and your average Vietnamese person.
Therefore: in my generation’s psyche, our country is one and one in terms of genocides stopped and genocides attempted.
In addition, the United States is one of the main sponsors of Israel as a country, and is basically the entire reason it hasn’t been wiped out by all of its neighbors, who hate it and everyone in it. They all realise that to attack Israel would cause the US to retaliate and basically wipe them off the map. This gives the US a certain level of responsibility for what Israel has decided to do whilst under that protection, since it wouldn’t have happened otherwise.
Further: the UN’s call for a ceasefire in that conflict has been vetoed by the United States. So basically that makes the US responsible for allowing the bloodshed to continue.
Therefore: yeah, the United States is, in fact, responsible for Israel’s continuing genocide attempt by vetoing the call for ceasefire and not doing anything tangible to stop the bloodshed committed by a country it has protected from its inception to today.
Overall: we are one and one for genocide v not-genocide, and it’s not looking good.
Except the gays, they were put back in the camps.
And America is a part of the Allies, they don’t get an special nod. Russia did a lot of the work and look at then now, scumbags.
Incoherent nonsense. Saying America and the Allies was not a claim of separation, it was an including statement on who stopped Germany while discussing America. Of course that’s the petty bullshit you want to bicker with.
America wasn’t neighbors with the fascist regime. They stepped up so pretending they dont deserve a special nod is bad faith input too. Russia also teamed up with Germany initially and only changed teams to protect their sovereignty.
Everything you say is some basic removal of context to bitch about nonsense.
Stepped up after years, after an attack on their own soil and to profit greatly.
America has a right to be proud of their place in WW2 but given Americas pride related to absolutely everything they do they need reminding of all the horrible shit they did. Like not freeing everyone from camps immediately.